lt scale in viewports

[Vik chic]

hi,
does anybody know how you in one layout have viewports in different ltscale? If you fx. in one drawing needs both a 1:50 scale and a 1:20 scale with dashed lines. Is it even possible??

[vizwhiz]

hi There Vik chic

hopefully someone has a better answer Than This

Step 1

but the only way that i know of to change LTscale of Linetype
is to create a series of Linetypes with different size definitions

(going into the "way-back" machine here)

one of the big problems with autocad is that the LINETYPE definitions
are TOO BIG, which is why people sometimes make the LTscale 1/2

of the Global Scale Factor or DimScale factor (big mistake IMHO)

if you go into the LineType definitions and make other sizes
divide by TEN by make additional LineTypes of 1/10 increments

we used to do This to make changes to the LTScale of a Line
before it was possible to make individual changes in the Properties

here is the HIDDEN LineType definition straight out of the acad.lin file

****

*HIDDEN,Hidden __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __
A,.25,-.125
*HIDDEN2,Hidden (.5x) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A,.125,-.0625
*HIDDENX2,Hidden (2x) ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
A,.5,-.25

****

This would look something like This:

*HIDDEN01,Hidden (.1x) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A,.025,-.0125
*HIDDEN02,Hidden (.2x) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A,.050,-.0250
*HIDDEN03,Hidden (.3x) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A,.075,-.03750
*HIDDEN04,Hidden (.4x) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A,.100,-.0500
*HIDDEN05,Hidden (.5x) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A,.125,-.0625
*HIDDEN06,Hidden (.6x) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A,.150,-.0750
*HIDDEN07,Hidden (.7x) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A,.175,-.0875
*HIDDEN08,Hidden (.8x) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A,.200,-.1000
*HIDDEN09,Hidden (.9x) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A,.225,-.1125
*HIDDEN10,Hidden (1.0x)__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __
A,.250,-.1250
*HIDDEN11,Hidden (1.1x) __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __
A,.275,-.1375
*HIDDEN12,Hidden (1.2x) __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __
A,.300,-.1500
*HIDDEN13,Hidden (1.3x) __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __
A,.325,-.1625
*HIDDEN14,Hidden (1.4x) __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __
A,.350,-.1750
*HIDDEN15,Hidden (1.5x) ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
A,.375,-.1875
*HIDDEN16,Hidden (1.6x) ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
A,.400,-.2000
*HIDDEN17,Hidden (1.7x) ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
A,.425,-.2125
*HIDDEN18,Hidden (1.8x) ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
A,.450,-.2250
*HIDDEN19,Hidden (1.9x) ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
A,.475,-.2375
*HIDDEN20,Hidden (2.0x) ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
A,.500,-.2500

****

Step 2

if you xref in a base plan using (again) different Name=DwgPathName

like,

Plan=c:\project1\baseplan.dwg
Elec=c:\project1\baseplan.dwg
Mech=c:\project1\baseplan.dwg
Roof=c:\project1\baseplan.dwg

etc

(This has to be done at the command prompt using "-xref" i believe)

Then This allows you to have multiple Linetype definitions for the same LINES
and you can Then change the COLOR values also because the Layer Manager shows the Layers as

Plan|Wall-Extr
Elec|Wall-Extr
Mech|Wall-Extr
Roof|Wall-Extr

any changes made to the "base" xref plan will update in ALL occurences of the XREF in the dwg
because then you actually have multiple LAYERS you can now change the Layer: COLOR, LINETYPE

This is probably NOT what you are looking for but it is the ONLY way That i know how to do This

hopefully someone else can educate me on "newer" & better Techniques
since i am NOT using 2004 i dont know if This is already possible it sure

would be nice, tho

****

i hope This helps

Thanks

Randy

[Kate M]

No need for new linetypes -- PSLTSCALE does the work for you!! Just set your LTSCALE to a small number (we use 0.5, some people use 1), then set PSLTSCALE to 1. This tells AutoCAD to use the scale of the viewport to calculate the proper linetype scale.

This is best used when you have a drawing with multiple viewports at different scales, because it means that the linetype is often obscured when working in modelspace (not the easiest way to draft).

If all your viewports are at the same scale, set your LTSCALE to some multiple of your drawing scale (again, we use 0.5, so for a 1/8" drawing, the LTSCALE would be 48), and set PSLTSCALE to 0. This tells AutoCAD to use the LTSCALE as the linetype scale for all viewports.

Hope this makes sense -- feel free to come back if it doesn't!

-Kate

[Mr T]

No need for new linetypes -- PSLTSCALE does the work for you!! Just set your LTSCALE to a small number (we use 0.5, some people use 1), then set PSLTSCALE to 1. This tells AutoCAD to use the scale of the viewport to calculate the proper linetype scale.

This is best used when you have a drawing with multiple viewports at different scales, because it means that the linetype is often obscured when working in modelspace (not the easiest way to draft).

If all your viewports are at the same scale, set your LTSCALE to some multiple of your drawing scale (again, we use 0.5, so for a 1/8" drawing, the LTSCALE would be 48), and set PSLTSCALE to 0. This tells AutoCAD to use the LTSCALE as the linetype scale for all viewports.

Hope this makes sense -- feel free to come back if it doesn't!

-Kate

1) In autocad hit Ctrl & 1 then PROPERTIES should come up.

2) Select the object you want to scale

3) Scroll down within the properties docker/window
and look for LINETYPE generation enalbed and also the
Linetype scale, set as required.

Of course in INVENTOR u just right click the view, up pops
a dialogue and pick the scale !

Now that I'm learning Inventor these problems just don't
happen.

Nick

[gcp310]

Am i suspecting that Mr T is now an INVENTOR convert? or am i just crazy? :D

Trick shall be to convert the rest of us sheep.

G

[fuccaro]

No, G! It is just your paranoia...
There is no much activity in the Inventor section -and in my opinion this is bad.

[hyposmurf]

Am i suspecting that Mr T is now an INVENTOR convert? or am i just crazy? :D

Trick shall be to convert the rest of us sheep.

G
He looks awfully lonely over in the Inventor section, :) maybe we should send him a few posts.

[Mr T]

Am i suspecting that Mr T is now an INVENTOR convert? or am i just crazy? :D

Trick shall be to convert the rest of us sheep.

G

Ha ha Well for 2D and 3D I'm still Autocad 2000/2004. Why ? well
I have not learnt enough of inventor to teach it yet. Also I have had
Inventor 7 and MDT 2004 since June 2003 but had NO training. Also
they will not run on my home machine.

But using Acad to produce 2D layouts of 3D Models is such a pig's ear
I have investigated importing the 3D Models into inventor for printing
and it is so easy, powerful and quick. What takes 10hrs with ACAD takes 50mins with Inventor. Since my assessment is driving my teaching I look for productivity in software eg CorelDRAW over Photoshop.

I have only learnt this from a 1hr demo/test drive last thursday at
an AutoDESK UNIVERSITY day in scotland.

I can honestly say that aspect is very good. Modelling is more dialogue driven rather than command line driven. For example the move from command line POLAR ARRAY in Autocad 2K to 2000i with a dialogue and options and preview is so much easier to learn and teach.

At school we pay £125 for the combined package of I7, MDT 2004, AutoCAD 2004.

Nick

[gcp310]

I knew there had to be a logical reason for it. :D

Seriously, i have seen what Inventor can do, and it is quite amazing. Its the transition from using autocad commands to using inventor command which you have to get your head around, Am I Right. A bit like using Viz to render after getting used to autocad for rendering.

G

[Mr T]

I knew there had to be a logical reason for it. :D

Seriously, i have seen what Inventor can do, and it is quite amazing. Its the transition from using autocad commands to using inventor command which you have to get your head around, Am I Right. A bit like using Viz to render after getting used to autocad for rendering.

G

but there is nearly always a Dialogue to help u thru a command

Nick