A Resolution the the problem

[ZenCad1960]

Since I have seemed to stir up the hornets nest I humbly submit the following idea for consideration:

Create a section where users, at their own choosing, can discuss ideology, concepts and have debates of subject relating to AutoCAD and items related to the different industries that use these products.

I believe, and this is JUST MY OPINION, that from a good healthy debate, new ideas are born. New Concepts conceived, and possibly a better way developed to do things. Of course there are times when that debate or discussion results in a stand still. That is great too. Why? Because some one not in the discuss my read the thread and find out information they didn't have before. No matter what side of the fence they stand on, they are now equipped with new information that may just help them, their firm and their clients, make more money, be more efficient, and provide better quality. Isn't that the whole idea behind these types of forums?

This is just an idea and I will let the OWNER of this forum decide what they would like to do with it!

Have a fantastic Weekend all!

ZenCad

[architecture68-raff]

Seems to me that we already have forums that address those needs...I too am somewhat confused about why that thread got shut down, but I don't think we need to make any forum-wide additions or changes.

From a bystander's viewpoint, I think you should be allowed to write about all you suggested in your post. But maybe focusing more on Autocad and less on "ideology" will help keep similar situations from occuring.

[StykFacE]

Zen, no need for an extra forum for those types of discussions (ideology that is). "healthy debates" are few and far between, and we just don't have them much here.


No matter what side of the fence they stand on, they are now equipped with new information that may just help them, their firm and their clients, make more money, be more efficient, and provide better quality. Isn't that the whole idea behind these types of forums?
And as far as this.... trust me dude, there are plenty of this already. you haven't been on this forum long and have no idea what we have all discussed before. in fact, we regularly have polls, discussions, and topics about "how does everyone do this" and "what do you think I can do to make this better" all the time. go to Search and type in the word 'discussion' and see the topics pop up.

look, no more threads. it's done... :lol:

just lay back, and enjoy this friendly forum. please.... this forum has been around for a long time and David (the owner) has been asked this same question many of times about throwing up more forums. If you have an idea, PM him. other than that... lets just put these past two days behind all of us.

if there's a question you know... answer it. if there's an answer you seek, ask it. if there's a joke you like, post it in Chat. if there's a hard job you need to vent on, then post it. lol, just chill, relax, enjoy the boards. 8)

- Tannar

[f700es]

One of the reasons I like it here..no political, religious or belief crap! I have other forums for discussions (read: arguments). ;)

[ZenCad1960]

That's cool. Oh and I am relaxed. There is no animosity here. Just thought instead of posting these kinds of things in a separate forum, those of you that don't care about them can simply not go in.

No worries. All is good. No need to stir a already stirred pot. LOL

[CADTutor]

Guys, I've been out all day so I missed all of the fun. Zen, as Styk said, there is room for healthy debate in all of our forums and we hope to encourage that. We (the moderators and I) work hard to keep this forum clean and on target. In the main we succeed against the odds and so if sometimes we don't get it quite right, that's because we care about the forum and don't want to see it go the way of many on the web.

Have a good weekend.

[Strix]

... I will let the OWNER of this forum decide what they would like to do with it!...

ZenCad

Whilst I enjoy HEALTHY debate, I really can't abide high handed attitudes such as giving PERMISSION to site owners about how they run their websites :glare:

I realised in the last thread that I wasn't really reading your posts any more, as you weren't debating - just spouting. You failed to take on board any of the valuable points made by any other member

..... why's this topic being discussed btw? It's only a continuation of a closed thread :huh:

[ZenCad1960]

LOL because of post like yours that want to be confrontational at best. ! but I am not starting anything today honest...!

[CADTutor]

Dare I close this thread? :D :wink:

[ZenCad1960]

Dare I close this thread? :D :wink:

Please do. There are people out there that just think it is more fun to slam me and be beneficial to the topic at hand than pitch in to a decent discussion.

but that is just my 2 cents....:huh::?

[rkmcswain]

My 2 cents....

I don't have a problem with adding new forums and/or their content. If it's something I don't want to read, I won't visit.

I suspect however that you may find yourself alone in discussing "new information that may just help them, their firm and their clients, make more money, be more efficient,", etc. -or- you will end up spending ALL DAY posting back and forth with others who have too much time on their hands.

As stated before, I believing in letting ideas, conversations, etc. proceed in a natural fashion. They will either die out or roll on. Either way, if it's a topic that any other member couldn't care less about - they won't be involved anyway.

Just keep this type of thing out of the technical forums. Nothing will drive away new CADTutor visitors faster than this type of stuff in a technical forum. Let Chat or CatchAll be the recipient for this.

Again, all this is IMO....

Have a good weekend everyone.

[ZenCad1960]

My 2 cents....

I don't have a problem with adding new forums and/or their content. If it's something I don't want to read, I won't visit.

I suspect however that you may find yourself alone in discussing "new information that may just help them, their firm and their clients, make more money, be more efficient,", etc. -or- you will end up spending ALL DAY posting back and forth with others who have too much time on their hands.

As stated before, I believing in letting ideas, conversations, etc. proceed in a natural fashion. They will either die out or roll on. Either way, if it's a topic that any other member couldn't care less about - they won't be involved anyway.

Just keep this type of thing out of the technical forums. Nothing will drive away new CADTutor visitors faster than this type of stuff in a technical forum. Let Chat or CatchAll be the recipient for this.

Again, all this is IMO....

Have a good weekend everyone.

And rkmcswain, that really was my point. I certainly don't want to fill the technical threads up with discussions that don't answer the questions. There seems to be endless chatter in there now but that is what it is. However if the chat or chatall are more for just chewing the fat, then that might not be the place either. I was just suggesting a place just for that kind of thing, discussion, debates etc. If no one want to participate in there then it won't have many posts. On the other hand it might be a great place to find new information, maybe some new ideas on how to do thing, not commands and such but maybe more cad management or training concepts, something along those lines, some one might benefit from them.

anyway, its a mute point.

[CADTutor]

Well, I for one would be happy to see a forum for CAD Management issues. This could be a place to trade opinions rather than facts since management is often more to do with style and personality than plain technical issues.

To date, I haven't seen the need for a separate forum but you are right that the nature of the threads would be different, being more in the form of a discussion rather than question/answer.

...In fact, here it is (http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=43).

[rkmcswain]

anyway, its a mute point.

As you can see (http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=43), it was not a moot point...

:-)

[ZenCad1960]

wait a tick..... me, ZenCAD, made a suggestion and someone honestly thought it might be a good one? LOL Just kidding... Well I am a bit shocked but happy too, that there will be a place to discuss and share ideas on running a cad department and other things of that nature.

Thanks guys....

I will be thinking of some topics the rest of the weekend. Just a heads up! ROFLMAO :shock::D:P