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happyunited
23rd Jul 2007, 02:47 pm
i have a block in a dwg that has the wrong insertion point. it should be the the centre of the manhole (blue circle) but instead is down a bit. this is causing problems when I i come to extract the co ords as i am not getting the true centre of the MH.

i have attached one of the blocks for your help.

Is there a way i can re-centre all the blocks (approx 60) so that the insertion point is not in the wrong place?

thanks in advance

StykFacE
23rd Jul 2007, 02:53 pm
just snap to the center of the circle, then move it to 0,0. save, and you're done. :)

happyunited
23rd Jul 2007, 02:57 pm
do i do this on the actual block drawing that i have inserted in? will that update all the other blocks with that same name in the drawing?

StykFacE
23rd Jul 2007, 03:03 pm
You'll have to do it to both. Do it to this drawing for future use. Then do it to the current drawing with the blocks already inserted, and you'll be all set. :wink:

dbroada
23rd Jul 2007, 03:06 pm
If you redefine the insertion point (use bedit or refedit) and update your blocks the insertion point will remain the same and the graphical items will move. Is that what you want or do you want the graphics to remain in the same place and the insertion point move? The former is easy, the 2nd not so.

happyunited
23rd Jul 2007, 03:06 pm
sorry but im still not clear on what to do. sorry i am being stupid!!

do i make a new block with the same name or do i update the old block?

happyunited
23rd Jul 2007, 03:10 pm
If you redefine the insertion point (use bedit or refedit) and update your blocks the insertion point will remain the same and the graphical items will move. Is that what you want or do you want the graphics to remain in the same place and the insertion point move? The former is easy, the 2nd not so.

i want the text and the attributes to stay in the same place, there are about 60 blocks in this drawing all over the place but the insertion point is wrong in them all, its all in the same wrong place and i need all the blacks to stay where they are but the insertion point to be moved to the centre of the blue manhole. thanks!

pjb84
23rd Jul 2007, 03:30 pm
i want the text and the attributes to stay in the same place, there are about 60 blocks in this drawing all over the place but the insertion point is wrong in them all, its all in the same wrong place and i need all the blacks to stay where they are but the insertion point to be moved to the centre of the blue manhole. thanks!
Just refedit your block....move linework that makes up block according to where you want it compared to the insertion point.....take note of distance....save your changes.....then move all blocks in dwg that distance that you just moved the block so they are back to where they where.

happyunited
23rd Jul 2007, 03:55 pm
if i go to bedit and move the centre to 0,0,0 that works well and good but then all the blocks are not in their right place :(:(:(

pjb84
23rd Jul 2007, 04:18 pm
if i go to bedit and move the centre to 0,0,0 that works well and good but then all the blocks are not in their right place :(:(:(
Draw a line from where the old center used to be to the new center and then move all your blocks along that line.

dbroada
23rd Jul 2007, 04:25 pm
You highlighted a pet peeve of mine - the ease of defining blocks without sensible insertion points. It saves so much time if a few extra minutes are spent ensureing that the insertion point is in the best position.

As you have just discovered everything moves around the insertion point. If all your blocks (or most of them) are moving the same amount in tha same direction do as pjb has said. (I would "quick select" all blocks with that name and move them by x.) The problem gets REALLY interesting when the insertion point is nowhere to be seen and the blocks have been inserted at different scales.

Good luck!

pjb84
23rd Jul 2007, 04:27 pm
After you move block to 0,0,0..see attached dwg on what to do. That should fix it...if I am understanding you correctly.