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Ste1978
27th Jul 2007, 09:19 am
Here is my dilema...

Joe Blogs LTD have a specification for drawings which include a standard layer template.

Mycompany - We don't want to use they're layer setup as they look crap e.g. Ghost lines, center lines, colors all look crap! but we have no choice.

Is there a way of setting up two layer systems in one template, so I can toggle between Joe Blogs setup and Mycompany setup?

StykFacE
27th Jul 2007, 01:10 pm
sure, use the LMAN tool. (it's an express tool)

What you do is this: when you get their drawing in, go to the Layer menu turn on and unfreeze all your layers, then save this as a layer state in LMAN.

after that, go to the Layer menu again and add the layers you will be using, but this time change all the layers to your choice of colors, linetypes, lineweights, on/off, freezed/unfreezed, etc etc. Now go to LMAN and save this as it's own layer state. now you can switch between the two at any time. hope this helps ya out.... :)

Ste1978
27th Jul 2007, 01:41 pm
sure, use the LMAN tool. (it's an express tool)

What you do is this: when you get their drawing in, go to the Layer menu turn on and unfreeze all your layers, then save this as a layer state in LMAN.

after that, go to the Layer menu again and add the layers you will be using, but this time change all the layers to your choice of colors, linetypes, lineweights, on/off, freezed/unfreezed, etc etc. Now go to LMAN and save this as it's own layer state. now you can switch between the two at any time. hope this helps ya out.... :)

Just what I was looking for! Thanks so much!

I love this forum, you guys are so helpful!

STE

Ste1978
27th Jul 2007, 02:14 pm
Right, I have set up LAYERS for

customer

and

inhouse

I can now toggle between the two.

Would it be possible to set up a button that can toggle the two?

StykFacE
27th Jul 2007, 02:54 pm
well, there's not a "button" for the LMAN in AutoCAD 2007. But what I did, and although this might not be reccomended, but I went to my CUI, and chose a command with a tool icon that I NEVER in my life use, or ever will use, and I just changed the Button Macro set to ^C^C_lman so that I don't have to constantly type LMAN to bring up the dialog box.

But if you wanted to switch between the two, you can make two icons in a Tool Palette, and name one Customer and the other icon name Inhouse.

for the Customer macro, use this:
-LMAN;R;CUSTOMER;;

for the Inhouse macro, use this:
-LMAN;R;INHOUSE;;

This should do the trick for ya. Hope this helps you out.... :wink:

Norts
27th Jul 2007, 03:53 pm
for those people who use LMAN (and I was one of them) in 2008, LMAN is no longer used (it is still supported however).
so i've had to get used to layerstates, instead of lman

Cad Sponge
27th Jul 2007, 04:55 pm
for those people who use LMAN (and I was one of them) in 2008, LMAN is no longer used (it is still supported however).
so i've had to get used to layerstates, instead of lman

There are 3 ways to control this feature. One is with the layer states manager, you can also use layer snapshots, which is pretty much the same thing. You can also freeze layers in a viewport

pennylove
27th Jul 2007, 05:10 pm
for those people who use LMAN (and I was one of them) in 2008, LMAN is no longer used (it is still supported however).
so i've had to get used to layerstates, instead of lman

No more lman??? What's wrong with those people? I love Lman!!!

StykFacE
27th Jul 2007, 06:48 pm
No more lman??? What's wrong with those people? I love Lman!!!
it's still there, it's just actually apart of AutoCAD now - not an express tool anymore. it works exactly the same, it's just named different. :wink:

Norts
27th Jul 2007, 07:13 pm
it's still there, it's just actually apart of AutoCAD now - not an express tool anymore. it works exactly the same, it's just named different. :wink:

it's gone forever in AutoCAD 2008

StykFacE
27th Jul 2007, 07:46 pm
no it's not, the icon is on the Layers toolbar. at the far right. :wink:

like i said, it just got pulled into the program.... kinda like the Express Tools Layers tools did. :)

rkmcswain
27th Jul 2007, 09:31 pm
But it's not the old ET LMAN, it's Layer States which has been built into AutoCAD for a while...

In other words, there were two of them (LMAN and Layer states) for several versions, they just finally canned LMAN.

"Layer states" will read LMAN settings so the transition is painless.

I have not tried, but I wonder if the old LMAN settings are "round-tripped" back to 2004 or 2000 format -or- once you open in 2008, they are gone....?

rkmcswain
27th Jul 2007, 09:38 pm
OK, I tried it.

If you have a 2004 or earlier drawing with LMAN saved settings, and you open this drawing in 2008 and run Layer States, then the LMAN settings are converted to Layer States settings. If you save this in 2007 format and then save again in 2004 format the LMAN settings are gone. IOW - they do not round-trip...

Norts
28th Jul 2007, 09:48 am
rkmc got it right, and so did i. he just explained it better than i