help with dynamic block

[PjotrVk]

I tried to make a dynamic block. I'm on a brink of giving up and start learning lisp.:(
I need this product stretched without changing the angel of the diagonal line.

Can anybody help?

Muchos grasias

[fuccaro]

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Welcome in the forum!

[PjotrVk]

I should have come here earlier.
I still have to find out wat you have done, but that's a nice trick.

It's a little bit more complicated than this. I attached an other file. I hope its a little more clear. Sorry for that.

[chulse]

does it need to have infinite adjustment or only a few known dimension sets?

[chulse]

Is this better?:unsure:

I'm still learning these too...

[PjotrVk]

It needs to be no wider than 130mm (extually 120, but this is just to be safe) and no smaller than 35mm
The constuction could be 1500mm high.

The left vertical line needs a minimal of 50mm. but this is more than hope to get with Dynamic blocks. This is more a lisp thing. When I have time between school and work i'll work on it.

[hazardman]

this is fairly close to what you want!...so go ahead and do some reverse engineering on it...of note is the stretch parameter that does the 45 degree angle...i used a multiplier of 1.41421356 (squareroot of 2 as it's the hypothenus (sp?)) to keep it lined up with the left side as it stretches...


enjoy!

[Mr Cory]

Grrr you bet me to it Hazardman, darn people interupting me :P

[PjotrVk]

Wow... hazardman. Thanks you solved it. I also was playing with
√2 but I couldn't get it right.

Everyone thanks for trying.

Now I have to find out how it works.

[PjotrVk]

I will show you a more complete block, just because you guys helped me so well

Products of my company:
http://www.batcontinental.nl/Uploads/10060_MO.jpg

[PjotrVk]

I have problem with block atributes. The internal wall has blockatributes that I can't delete.

How to do this? Anybody?

Thanks in advance.

(sorry the parameter are in Dutch)

[Mr Cory]

After you delete them in the block editor, you will need to run either attsync or battman on the existing blocks definations in the drawing, or you can delete and reinsert the blocks

[PjotrVk]

Thanks, I will do that.

A new probl...hm... challenge has arised. I like to bend "steel" in a dynamic. luckely no hatching is needed. The file wil explain. I hope my intensions are clear enough.

I hope you enjoy this kind of "challenges" :oops:

[PjotrVk]

oops... forgot cad drawing

[Mr Cory]

Love a good challenge...

This block i made for a guy over on the autodesk website, it uses a modified dim style for the arc and point stretches chained to a rotate parameter to move the arc's.

[PjotrVk]

Hm... I figured the stretch actions, but dimstyle... genius. This is what I was trying to do.
I've got a prob...difficulty with it. see picture below.
I'll keep on trying, but help is always appreciated.

Thanks... major thanks you and "a guy"

[Mr Cory]

Hm... I figured the stretch actions, but dimstyle... genius. This is what I was trying to do.
I've got a prob...difficulty with it. see picture below.
I'll keep on trying, but help is always appreciated.

Thanks... major thanks you and "a guy"


Yeah... That was the only problem it had, seem you are using a dim it will obviously act like a dim. I dont know how or if this can be changed. I'll have another play and see what i come up with.

No prob 8)

[Mr Cory]

There is a way to do it using a wipeout but they are messy, is this an option?

[Mr Cory]

You wouldnt be using ADT/ACA by any chance? lol

Take a look at this one

[PjotrVk]

Hm... I really needed the original stretch parameters. But outher then it was good enough.

Is wipeout a fuction of ADT/ACA? No... I don't have it. Just vanilla Autocad. I wonder how much I'm missing.

BTW, I'm only here monday to thurday. I don't have internet yet at home.

I will test it further, but other work is piling up.

edit: yes I do have wipeout.

edit2: fixed the stretching. Great... now for an other challenge.

[Mr Cory]

Yeah wipeouts will work but as i said they will blotout things behind it. The reason i asked is that ADT has a object similar to the wipeout but you can specify what objects are to be hidden, perfect in this situation. Missing, it really depends on what you'd be using it for.

It might just be a case of having vis states for straight/bent

[Mr Cory]

see picture below.


If you stretch it towards the straight position in stages it works almost fine i got it down to 3%%d but it takes time and is a pain in the :shock: lol

[PjotrVk]

In autocad "vanilla" there is also a menu draw order then select object. bring to front. It has the same result.

[PjotrVk]

...but it takes time and is a pain in the :shock: lol
Yeah... if my engeneering department uses my stuff, my enployment here is much more stable.:unsure:

[Mr Cory]

In autocad "vanilla" there is also a menu draw order then select object. bring to front. It has the same result.

As long as you dont have a problem with the concrete hatch going through the rebar, the wipeout option would work (assuming you'd use this block for footings/foundations)


Yeah... if my engeneering department uses my stuff, my enployment here is much more stable.:unsure:

Haha i know what you mean, im learning lisp for this very reason :P

[Mr Cory]

Check this thread out (http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5743904&#5743904), it is the original thread. BMC came up with a really good idea of rotating lines not the dim's which seems to work well

[PjotrVk]

I took my work to home and made my steel construction I had in mind. Not with rotation parameter, but with polar strech. Not perfect, but useful. Lots of wipeout.

Now you come with this new info... Lets test it out.

[Mr Cory]

See what you think of tis, the only problem is it doesnt work after you stretch vertikaal because you are moving all the objects and parameters but because they are chained, when you invoke vertikaal you are invoking the chain effect also which is throwing things outa wack.

[PjotrVk]

Sorry, I haven't replied in some time. I've been ill a wile. At this moment I think I'm going home again. I don't know why I tell you this. I don't like it when I let people hanging.

buy, for now.

[Mr Cory]

Thats ok, get well soon!!

[PjotrVk]

I will use the dynamicblock with wipe. There is no other way. I hope autodesk will add the needed features for a better result. I don't think lisp is a solution in this case. I need to bend it over all kind of different floors. The best way to do it is by hand (I think:unsure: )

I solved all problem concerning this construction. Maybe I can fuse all my blocks together somehow. If there where multiple invisibility states it would be possible.

Maybe program a lisp to make them stick together. groups will not suffice. Hmmm...(pondering).