Nested XREF

[happyunited]

I have an nested XREF in a drawing which i dont need. it is adding on 1mb and really want rid of it. how do i as it wont let me detach it? what is an nested xref anyway?

thanks in advance

[Tiger]

nested Xref means that the XRef in question is Xreffed into another file that you...let me start over..

A nested xref is not directly xreffed into your file - it has been xreffed into another drawing, and that drawing is then xreffed into your drawing. Or it could be even farther removed.

To remove it you have to remove it from the actual file that it's xreffed into - change to Tree View (button at the top) to see how the files are xreffed into each other

[chulse]

A nested ref is an "attach" type xref (as opposed to an "overlay") within another xref.
You need to open the xref its nested in and detatch it from there.

Muddy enough? Let me know if you need more info...

[happyunited]

thanks guys ill give that a go!

[G-Prime]

Please note that if you work for a company and you did not set up that drawing, make sure that you tell the person who did what you are doing, as that person may be using that attached xref, and if you detach it without telling them, well lets just say, at the next company sponsored event, it might be a bit awkward, if they find out who changed that drawing.

[happyunited]

Please note that if you work for a company and you did not set up that drawing, make sure that you tell the person who did what you are doing, as that person may be using that attached xref, and if you detach it without telling them, well lets just say, at the next company sponsored event, it might be a bit awkward, if they find out who changed that drawing.

:) thats not a problem. thanks anyway

[Hedgehog]

A nested ref is an "attach" type xref (as opposed to an "overlay") within another xref.
You need to open the xref its nested in and detatch it from there.

Muddy enough? Let me know if you need more info...
Don't detach it unless absolutely necessary... just change it to an overlay & re-open your drawing & it will disappear off the list... xref's have usually been inserted for a reason... there's not many reasons for attaching it rather than overlaying, but there you go, some people forget.

/edit... hmm... things are slow to update today :oops:

[chulse]

Please note that if you work for a company and you did not set up that drawing, make sure that you tell the person who did what you are doing, as that person may be using that attached xref, and if you detach it without telling them, well lets just say, at the next company sponsored event, it might be a bit awkward, if they find out who changed that drawing.

Good point. Makes me glad I'm a solo act!!:D

And when I do get a helper, he must comply with my standards :wink: (Yes, I wrote standards for myself. Work was slow that week...o:) )

[chulse]

Don't detach it unless absolutely necessary... just change it to an overlay & re-open your drawing & it will disappear off the list... xref's have usually been inserted for a reason... there's not many reasons for attaching it rather than overlaying, but there you go, some people forget.

/edit... hmm... things are slow to update today :oops:

True True. Again, I'm glad I work alone...

[G-Prime]

Well just be careful, I know it is written in most standards to overlay, but I know people who do attach on purpose, because they are too lazy to overlay a million times, so they attach and skip the part where they have to change every single drawing.

I say this because, some relay on that attached xref in on of their drawings, and can be problem matic if someone changed that reference to overlay, without telling them that is.

Personally, I just turn off that whole drawing in my layer manager, and forget about it, since when you bind the drawings, you can pretty much just delete that layer and then purge anything associated with it, and it will at that point not matter.

[chulse]

Well just be careful, I know it is written in most standards to overlay, but I know people who do attach on purpose, because they are too lazy to overlay a million times, so they attach and skip the part where they have to change every single drawing.

I say this because, some relay on that attached xref in on of their drawings, and can be problem matic if someone changed that reference to overlay, without telling them that is.

Personally, I just turn off that whole drawing in my layer manager, and forget about it, since when you bind the drawings, you can pretty much just delete that layer and then purge anything associated with it, and it will at that point not matter.

Good points too.
Why do you BIND?

[G-Prime]

Well mainly because we are an Architecture firm, the drawings are always changing, so when we issue a set, we will bind a set, for future reference as in, it is a set for the fact of what we issued, because knowing how things work, the drawings will change even after being issued.

So it is just to know what was issued for what.

[driftingsun3]

A nested ref is an "attach" type xref (as opposed to an "overlay") within another xref.
You need to open the xref its nested in and detatch it from there.

Muddy enough? Let me know if you need more info...

(I think my problem is somewhat similar) What if the original source file is deleted and gone, but the current drawing still wants to "find" the reference (which is nested, because it tells me so, and I cannot modify pathway, or detach, or whatever) and in this case, it of course doesn't find it, then some unsightly script shows up all over my drawings instead. Will detaching the ref from an "earlier" reference on up the line still work?

[G-Prime]

Like it says missing reference "k://whatever.dwg"??

You can select and delete that, then purge the drawing, that should get rid of that in your x-ref manager.

[driftingsun3]

Thanks for the help, it turns out the problem was strictly mundane, I just needed to open up the original drawing and detach the reference from there
(it has taken me a few tries to learn how the directory is set up at my workplace, and I didn't realize that there was another drawing somewhere that the reference was referenced to).