how do i create this?

[ctbuilder]

hi all i come here in need of help ive been using autocad 04 for a couple of years now and have decided that i want to get inot 3d. now i know auto cad is challenging but i dont have a choice i dont have the funds to go buy a new program so this is my only choice. the first pic is of the plane i want to draw and i want to do it all in 3d but this is the imge i have to work with. the second is a screen pic of a yak someone else did but my question is how do i get this in so that its like the second pic( vertical fuselage on one plane horisontal use and wings on another plane)

[Strix]

Hi, and welcome to the forum :)

maybe it'd be a good idea to ask a mod to move your thread to the 3D section?
you may bump into more knowledgeable people in this field over there :thumbsup:

(don't re-post - it makes things WAY too messy :wink: )

[hazardman]

...but i dont have a choice i dont have the funds to go buy a new program ...


there's google sketchup, anim8or, blender (i've sceen some really nice stuff) and many others that are free!..

i understand that while autocad offers 3D capabilitites and that there's a user familairity with using a known software there's nothing like expanding your toolset...but who knows, perhaps autocad will end up as your prefered workflow but don't limit yourself thinking there's no other economical solutions for you...:wink:

[ctbuilder]

strix thanks ill see if i can get a mod to move it

hazard man i completely agree with expanding the tool box i also have alibre express but to be honest im not all that impressed with it. dont get me wrong it is a reall good program but it seems to geared more for the maching area then this and plus unless you buy the upgrade the free version is very limited to what you can do.
i will look into those ones you suggested can you by chance point me in there direction please???

[Cad64]

I totally agree with hazardman. Don't feel that you are stuck with Autocad for 3D. In fact, I would advize against using your version of Autocad for 3D. Since you are using 2004, you may as well be building this thing with toothpicks. Autocad 2004 3D is downright archaic. As suggested, take a look at Blender, or if you are willing to shell out about $500-$600, you could get yourself a copy of XSI or Zbrush

Here are the links to the software posted by hazardman as well as the ones I mentioned.
http://www.sketchup.com/
http://www.anim8or.com/
http://www.blender.org/

http://www.softimage.com/
http://www.pixologic.com/home.php

[hazardman]

for $300 you could also look at animation master at http://www.hash.com/2007web/ which is spline-based modelling (it's like building a cage and skining it) so the construction tools are a little different...unfortunately it looks as though they revamped the website to be more of a store front so i guess you'll need to go to the forum to get info on the product?..

[New2CADmike]

First of all you need more data for that pitts...look around on the web for more drawings of this plane especially cross sections..I have been working on this p-38 for a while now and found this excellent drawing with lots of data all over it..using it I was able to make and modify formers to create a beginning of a 3 d model..But it is hard to do..try getting a set of model airplane plans and with it all drawn up,trace the parts..extrude them..and assemble it in 3d..just use alot of construction lines to place them in to position..

[f700es]

Oh you've got to share that dwg file or atleast post the link ;)

[JD Mather]

...decided that i want to get inot 3d.

No one has asked, why. What are your specific reasons for getting into 3D? What do you want to accomplish? Different software programs might be appropriate depending on your end goals.

I would suggest looking for a class at your local community college. Students can download the latest Autodesk software for free from http://engineersrule.org .

There is also the possibility of doing the model with free Autodesk Inventor LT - but you would have to model the entire plane as a single part. If you are clever you could figure out how to derive individual parts from the master. Anyone in N. America and Down Under can download Inventor LT for free from http://labs.autodesk.com . But it might not make sense to learn an entirely different modeling program depending on what your end goals are.

If you really want/need to do it in AutoCAD and you can't take a class I would first learn all about 3D solids in r2004. Try to do as much as you can. But you are going to run into problems because r2004 doesn't have Loft and Sweep and possibly some other things you really need. After you have a good handle on r2004 solids then download a free 30-day trial of r2008 and find everything you can about the new tools (see my signature for one source). Save your model back to r2004 before the 30-day trial is up.

You might also want to sign up for AutoCAD Beta http://myfeedback.autodesk.com code word Raptor.

[ReMark]

I think it could be done in AutoCAD 2004. Time, patience and some good dimensions is all it would take.

[Cad64]

Sure, it could be done in Autocad 2004, but you could also build the great wall of China using marbles instead of large stones. :sweat:
What I'm saying is, why do it if you don't have to? :huh: There are other options available.
Work smart, not hard, that's my motto. :D

JD Mather brought up a good point. We don't know why ctbuilder wants to build this plane in 3D? Is it for work or is it just for fun? :unsure: Knowing that will help determine what software would be best. But if you do need to use Autocad, I would definitely recommend upgrading to 2007 or 2008. You will find the process much easier with the newer versions. :thumbsup:

[ctbuilder]

Sure, it could be done in Autocad 2004, but you could also build the great wall of China using marbles instead of large stones. :sweat:

LOL:lol: thats funny

[/QUOTE]JD Mather brought up a good point. We don't know why ctbuilder wants to build this plane in 3D? Is it for work or is it just for fun? :unsure: Knowing that will help determine what software would be best. But if you do need to use Autocad, I would definitely recommend upgrading to 2007 or 2008. You will find the process much easier with the newer versions. :thumbsup:[QUOTE]


its more of a because i want to then anything else. i ve designed and built many plnes from just three views like the one i posted but always in 2d and when i put it all together no matter how hard i tried some stuff just didnt fit right. now i know this isnt the cure all for that problem it would however help and it would be nice to see the plane assembled before anything even gets cut. besides it would just be cool.

[New2CADmike]

yes it really is cool to do..to make it in 3d and then 3d orbit the thing and see what it all looks like...fun fun fun..but you got to learn how to do it!!..My suggestion would be is buy a set of paper plans from one of the major model airplane designers..you know who they are..and get them scanned at one of the blue print scanner business in your area..the plans have every part already layed out..trace them each..create 3 d parts from the tracings and assemble it in 3 d...you will learn tons from this experence..