Object grouping

[Lyp]

Hi all

I have two questions to ask all those good people out there.

1. I have done something with my settings and now when I do the object grouping (for example putting several lines into one object) the whole thing does not act as one object, e.g. when I click only on one line of the object when I want to move it, I move only that line of the object and not the whole thing as I would wish to. It's really driving me crazy.

2. How can I set scales of lines and dimensions when inserting Xrefs into a drawing.

Thank you very much for all your responses.

Cheers

Andreas

[NBC]

1. you can switch the group selection on by holding down CTRL and SHIFT keys, whilst simultaneously pressing the A key.
This action is a toggle switch, and is the same procedure for switching group selection back off.

2. not sure of the question you asked. you will need to provide more information as to what you want to do.

[Lyp]

Thank you so much NBC. This shortcut you gave me is exactly what I was looking for.

Regarding my second question. The thing I'm trying to do is to bring outline of a structure from one drawing to another as Xref however first drawing is in different scale as a second one and therefore all dotted and dashed lines do not appear correctly on the second just as well the dimensions are not in a correct scale.

Thank you very much

Andreas

[Alan Cullen]

Sorry for intruding here, Blue.

The first part of your question is simple. Use the following lisp code to get a selection set organised: (setq ss (ssget)) .Then do with that anyway you want, but use !ss to recover that selection set when required.

Like NBC, I don't understand your problem on the second issue.

[Lyp]

Well I'm sorry if I haven't made myself clear enough but my main problem with the xrefs is that when I attach an xref to drawing and I want to take it to the paperspace in a different scale as it was on a original drawing, lines which appear as dashed on the first drawing appear as continuous in second due to a scale alteration. So basicly if an outline of a structure was drawn in scale 1:100 its linetype scale of dashed lines suits this scale. However when I take it as an xref to a different drawing and bring it to the paperspace in scale 1:25 also linetype scale get scale which results in dashed lines continuous. The same goes for dimensions which end up being either too small or too big.
Thank you guys.

[SLW210]

Check these settings.


PSLTSCALE
Controls paper space linetype scaling.

0 No special linetype scaling. Linetype dash lengths are based on the drawing units of the space (model or paper) in which the objects were created. Scaled by the global LTSCALE factor.
1 Viewport scaling governs linetype scaling. If TILEMODE is set to 0, dash lengths are based on paper space drawing units, even for objects in model space. In this mode, viewports can have varying magnifications, yet display linetypes identically. For a specific linetype, the dash lengths of a line in a viewport are the same as the dash lengths of a line in paper space. You can still control the dash lengths with LTSCALE.
When you change PSLTSCALE or use a command such as ZOOM with PSLTSCALE set to 1, objects in viewports are not automatically regenerated with the new linetype scale. Use the REGEN or REGENALL commands to update the linetype scales in each viewport.


VISRETAIN
Controls the visibility, color, linetype, lineweight, and plot styles (if PSTYLEPOLICY is set to 0) of xref-dependent layers and specifies whether nested xref path changes are saved.

0 The layer table, as stored in the reference drawing (xref) takes precedence. Changes made to xref-dependent layers in the current drawing are valid in the current session only and are not saved with the drawing. When the current drawing is reopened, the layer table is reloaded from the reference drawing and the current drawing reflects those settings. The layer settings affected are On, Off, Freeze, Thaw, Color, Ltype, LWeight, and PStyle (if PSTYLEPOLICY is set to 0). This setting also specifies that changes made to the paths of nested xrefs are for the current session only and are not saved with the drawing.
1 Xref-dependent layer changes made in the current drawing take precedence. Layer settings are saved with the current drawing's layer table and persist from session to session. Nested xref path changes are saved with the current drawing and persist from session to session.