Inserting Contol Points

[Simple153]

I am trying to insert a numer of control points in a layout from a surveyors drawing. The co-ordinate system is set the same in each drawing but when I select and go to paste to original co-ords in second drawing they are being inserted at roughy twice the value in both the x and y direction they should be. Both drawings are both set to unitles? Any help would be appreciated!!

Cheers

Si

[CarlB]

Are these individual points, blocks, or a single block? If blocks are involved there may be some scaling going on. Besides the "units" command, check the values of INSUNITSDEFSOURCES & INSUNITSDEFTARGET

[Alan Cullen]

The other option is, that your base drawing is not on the coord grid of the survey. So bring the survey into a new drawing, pick known points, get the coords off those points, go back to the original drawing, and rescale it to suit. I'll stand by here to help you further if you require me to.

P.S. I am a surveyor.

[BIGAL]

May have the answer

Trying to remember the command something like dwg setup you can set scales etc for any drawing but it has a glich that it controls inserted blocks you must set the option top right to not scale inserted objects.

We had blocks rescaling from metric to feet ie .3048 size factor untick box now ok

[Simple153]

Hey Guys I tried the INSUNITSDEFTARGET and the INSUNITDEFSOURCE. They were both set at 0 in both drawings, but I typed 0 anyway and guess what. It know works!!!!!!! GOD DON'T YOU JUST LOVE AUTOCAD

[CarlB]

Well hawt daym that's great I can call it a day. As AutoCAD developers say, if it ain't broke, if it is uncomplicated, let's change it!

**EDIT**

holy cr**, 1530 posts, and that's without being a chatter, I must go and see if I can find my pre-cadtutor life. (maybe there wasn't one....oh no)

[Tiger]

Well hawt daym that's great

Great Carl - I've finally gotten the correct spelling for that expression - thanks! :D

[Simple153]

When I lis the properties of the block I am trying to copy across I get the following:-

BLOCK REFERENCE Layer: "4CE_STATIONS"
Space: Model space
Color: 14 Linetype: "BYLAYER"
Handle = 17ab
Block Name: "STN_SYMBOL"
at point, X=337437.1140 Y=556305.9520 Z= 0.0000
X scale factor: 0.6000
Y scale factor: 0.6000
rotation angle: 0
Z scale factor: 0.6000
Scale uniformly: No
Allow exploding: Yes

Would any of these properties cause the points not to be inserted at the same point

Cheers

Si

[Tiger]

" X scale factor: 0.6000
Y scale factor: 0.6000
rotation angle: 0
Z scale factor: 0.6000" means that it copies across at 0.6 scale of the original block - which makse the block end up in a different place even though the insertion point is the same.

And you have the INSUNITS variable set to 0 (or at least the same) in both drawings?