How about Rel. 9

[delliott]

Anybody remember Acad Rel. 9, that is when I started!

[ReMark]

A fairly good release but r14 was by far the best of that bunch (9 thru 14). Didn't care much, nor did we bother to upgrade to the ones in between).

[CADTutor]

R9 was the first AutoCAD I saw but I started with R10 when it was first released. I agree with ReMark that R14 was a great release but I did a lot of my best work on R12 DOS and for me, that was THE classic AutoCAD release.

[Dipali]

no idea about the R9 but when i got introduced to cad, got the chance to work on R12 & R13 a bit. than i had aformal training from autodesk's authorised training center on R14. So yes I can vouch for R14 to be a good version. than i worked in R2000 & R2002.
after that got the chance to work back on R14 with DRC, and it was better than R2002 in many ways for architectural purposes.

[ReMark]

Ahhhh...the good old DOS days. Yep. Fond memories of tweaking the autoexec.bat and config.sys files not to mention coming up with macros and editting the menu file. Jeez, seems like almost yesterday. And let's not forget troubleshooting IRQ problems. Almost makes me wish for an old 386 machine. NOT!

[Julie@Integra]

This also brings back fond memories of the ol' digitizer and 12-button mouse. Ahhhhh.... :)

[ReMark]

Ol' digitizer? Hey, I still use one (Calcomp DB III) and a sixteen button mouse! Who you calling old?:lol:

[Hedgehog]

Ahhhh...the good old DOS days. Yep. Fond memories of tweaking the autoexec.bat and config.sys files not to mention coming up with macros and editting the menu file. Jeez, seems like almost yesterday. And let's not forget troubleshooting IRQ problems. Almost makes me wish for an old 386 machine. NOT!
... & shelling out to XTREEGOLD to do all the file management... multi-tasking!... superb!

[ReMark]

Anyone recall the memory manager program that used the be the rage back then. I think it was QEMM. It could tweak all kinds of settings to get your 386 or 486 computer running like a well tuned machine. Of course, that was at a blazing speed of 25-50MHz. Seems like a real dinosaur now doesn't it?

[CADDict]

QMEM?
I started on Release 11. :)
I actually miss the digitizer sometimes. I've been wanting to track one down just to have one.

[Hedgehog]

QEMM - Quarterdeck Expanded Memory Manager

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qemm

[ReMark]

Thanks Hedge, that's the one. I use to tinker with all the settings and parameters like a mechanic working on a car's engine. Just...a...little...more...speed...pleeeeeeeeeze.

Hey, I still have my copy of MS-DOS version 5.0 User's Guide and Reference sitting on my bookshelf. Blows off dust. Achoo!

[dumfatnhappy]

QMEM?
I started on Release 11. :)
I actually miss the digitizer sometimes. I've been wanting to track one down just to have one.


I started with v2.6....and 386 486?? what about 286...or 8088:o (XT) ?? and I STILL use the digitizer (at home)......funny as I had catarac surgery in both eyes with these fancy a$$ lenses put in.....now the digitizer is just out of my "close" range.....I hit the commands from memory I've been using it so long. About to move to 2009 which will be interesting with the CUI. I've worn out about a half a dozen pucks now. All kinds of spare parts on the work bench. :P

you can find tablets on ebay for $300(12x12)-$650(12x18)

ok, now where'd I put my teeth........

[ReMark]

Who could forget such favorites as:

Device=C:\DOS\Himem.sys
Device=C:\DOS\EMM386.exe
DOS=High, UMB
Shell=C:\DOS\Command.com c:\Dos\ /P
Devicehigh=C:\DOS\Ramdrive.sys

[dumfatnhappy]

oh the MAMORIES......:shock:

[Julie@Integra]

Ol' digitizer? Hey, I still use one (Calcomp DB III) and a sixteen button mouse! Who you calling old?:lol:

LOL, I'm old. I used to flyyyyyy on that digitizer! But I wouldn't want to go back to it now, after so many years without it.


QMEM?

I started on Release 11. :)
I actually miss the digitizer sometimes. I've been wanting to track one down just to have one.

I still have one of the clear plastic template things that you'd have to tape down to the digitizing tablet, then calibrate. It's around here somewhere.... :wink:

[delliott]

OMG! Yes, good ol' "DOS" before Window versions! I remember having the hardest time trying to learn "DOS". Eventually I got it! Thanks now for Windows and no more DOS.

Oh yea! The tablet, I didn't like the tablet!

And I do remember tree managers!

Sure am glad times advanced things! LOL

[zars]

What are you talking about???? did this really happen??? I thought PCs started on Windows :P :P :P :D

[CADDict]

I remember having the hardest time trying to learn "DOS".
Thanks to DOS, I forced myself to memorize all the shortcut keys. I haven't ever used toolbars except for pretty much just dimensions.

[ReMark]

Funny though, for the longest time the cry was "DOS is dead" but whenever one experienced a problem in the earlier versions of Windows the first piece of advice given was to open a command window and then enter the following (DOS) commands!

[Offset]

Hey ppl! First post here.

My first ACAD was r10 on DOS, but I got started on CADAM (anyone remember that?) with a black and white tube and a light pen! Had that big ole function box to the left with the "indicate" and "yes/no" buttons...
:D

[ReMark]

First computer: Olivetti-Underwood. Had to "program" the computer by sliding a long, narrow piece of plastic through a housing that would "read" it. Used to figure out curve stationing for surveying.

First serious computer: An Apple with two floppy drives and a 13" monochrome monitor. I think the color was green. After that it was an Apple IIe. Wow, life in the fast lane!

[yedan]

ah the good ol days, think my first release was R9 or R10 complete with tablet and xtreegold although i started with just plain ol xtree.

[CADTutor]

ah the good ol days, think my first release was R9 or R10 complete with tablet and xtreegold although i started with just plain ol xtree.

OMG, I'd forgotten about Xtreegold! Take a look at this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=9498939) - those memories come flooding back.

[f700es]

OMG, I'd forgotten about Xtreegold! Take a look at this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=9498939) - those memories come flooding back.

:lol: Doom2, ah the memories 8)8)8)

[yedan]

hehe doom2 heck i remember doom the original and the forfather of that castle wolfstien 3d

[dumfatnhappy]

yeah, wolfenstein changed the gaming world completely

[Rickard5]

MY First "REAL" usable computer was an OSI with Basic in ROM, my first go at cadd was Autocad 10 on a 5150 IBM PC with an INTEL above Board and a Whole Mb of Ems and a 10 Mb Full hight 5.25 Hard Drive :) I loved that machine it had my eprom burner in it :) and I still love Basica.
if any one finds a copy of 9 or erlier I'm offering TOP $$$$$ for it

[StykFacE]

Rickard, I sent you and email about the software. Too big to email but I can meet up with you - did you not get it? :)

[ReMark]

While nosing around in the dusty confines of my cubicle I came across the following:

- 3.5" floppy disks for AutoCAD LT Release 2 for Windows 3.1

- 5.5" floppy disks for AutoCAD Release 9, 11, 11c2 and 12(demo)

- CD for AutoCAD LT 97

Who knew!

[motoxrcr]

I started on 9 also. I remember it well.

[Coosbaylumber]

Will someone take a look in their documentation and tell me as to what brand and type (or model number) of plotter or digitizer the release used?

I used to think that R-13 had the biggest array of models, but looks am wrong now.

Wm.

[ReMark]

What seems to be the problem? You're not trying to get some piece of equipment from 1990 to work are you?

[Coosbaylumber]

No, just had an interest.


But, main item is that had been told the R-13 was the most compatible version - ever. It had a HUGE list of compatible items available. Only thing I remember about R-13 was it was the most argumentative version ever. I don't think you could open up one drawing more than five times w/o some sort of problem developing. Usually happened to me in the mornings. I often waited until afternoon to digitize or do a plot too. Allow someone else to experiment that day. You pick up those kinks real fast.

Wm.

[ReMark]

Maybe that huge list was a product of trying to serve two masters i.e. - DOS and Windows.

[Coosbaylumber]

My reccolection is that we were on some version of the many Win. 95 at the time. It used to get blamed for near evertything. Installed R-114 and had same exact problems, but more options and a shorter list of available hardware to plug into. We were asked at beginning load up as to if we knew the type of plotter to be installed, or would like to choose one from list, or wait until later on.

R-14 had too many options, and did not like to talk to the computer across the hallway either.

I have a H-P UX version here (for free), that got loaded into DOS and it works just fine.

Wm.

[ReMark]

I loved r14. It was the release I ended up doing the most as far as customizing went.

[Ryder76]

The first release I ever saw was 2.0 on an old 8086 back in 1988. By 1991 I was in college and learning on rel. 9 and 10 - Also microstation 4 (I think).

[Coosbaylumber]

The first release I ever saw was 2.0 on an old 8086 back in 1988. By 1991 I was in college and learning on rel. 9 and 10 - Also microstation 4 (I think).


I am trying to remember back when, but I was picked in the office to give a demo of the Calcomp plotter and digitizer at work in very early 1980's. Someone from their office dropped off a set of 180 floppy disks, and during lunchtime once we got our IBM 8086 and 8087 to working. It worked for about 1/2 day then we quit. Sent a thank-you letter back was all I remember doing now. Then, about late 1980's I think version six was out. My first job at a newer employer was to unload and reinstall version 8 or 9 over the earlier system, or use the mainframe. Which I did. We (I) loaded it up onto some very fast 286 and we were rocketing off then.

Next employer (in Palm Springs) got me to load up some R-10 onto a 386/16 machine that was specially rigged and cost more than $3000 for the basic computer only. I think we used H-P digitizers and plotters exclusivly there. Did not realize that R-11 and R-12 would load up just as easy (or easier) onto the 486 computers, until it was time to leave. It was a bigger program then, but the drives ran faster and the disks had more capacity too.

Wm.

[Coosbaylumber]

By 1991 I was on .... Also microstation 4 (I think).

One of my employers used Microstation exclusively in early 1990s' as they had quite a bit of work for the Calif. Dept of transportation locally. CALTRANS would only accept disks converted or working on Microstation at the time. I think Micro was less confusing then too, but I got to running the numbers on a mainframe as a backup about same time. (Got paid more too).


Wm.

[Nardino]

I am still using the digitazer with the 16 button puck

[Ryder76]

I am still using the digitazer with the 16 button puck

I loved that digitizer and puck - hated a mouse.

[ReMark]

Another digitizer user here!

[dumfatnhappy]

I am still using the digitazer with the 16 button puck
I would be too if 64 bit would support it (Vista)

hell maybe they do since I retired it 2 years ago...

[dwb]

While nosing around in the dusty confines of my cubicle I came across the following:

- 3.5" floppy disks for AutoCAD LT Release 2 for Windows 3.1


I have the CD but am missing the floppy. Could you zip it up and send it to me, please? Autodesk support said they are not able to replace it due to age.

[Coosbaylumber]

You must then not have original disks. For would not have been on 3 1/2 inchers, but older yet 5 inchers.

The floppy drive gets hooked direct into the main mother board on your computer. I ran out of bays in the front to install another drive, so loaded up my version via software and a serial cable. I used Fast Lynx and then loaded the disks into another computer, and copied and ran the newer computer via tie in to the older one. Once I got configured, the cable came out, and I was going.

'cept for the monitor part, which I forgot and had to look that up.

Wm.

[ReMark]

AutoCAD LT Release 2 for Windows 3.1 did indeed ship on 3.5" (1.44MB) floppies. There were a total of six disks. I can post an image if you don't believe me.

[Coosbaylumber]

Mark....

LT must have come two ways then, upon 5 inch disks also, as I got aout 7-9 of them in my lower drawer still. I use LT every once in awhile as it works good with an intermeditate printer/plotter I got here from H-P. (Don't know how to run remainder of program, but the printer button still works good)

Wm.

[ReMark]

Then you're talking about 5.25" high density floppy disks. They had a capacity of approximately 1.2MB. The low density version only had a capacity of 360KB.

[Coosbaylumber]

Then you're talking about 5.25" high density floppy disks. They had a capacity of approximately 1.2MB. The low density version only had a capacity of 360KB.

Nope...

The 360 era was relatively modern there in the 1980's for am thinking of the 180 MB disks, as have a few of them stored away here someplace. These have a white center as the latter disks omitted such a feature.

Used to go, shish, shish, shish as they ran.


Wm.