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kidoy
19th Apr 2008, 02:03 pm
hello guys...
apology if this question is already ask before but i do find it before asking this apprently i did not see any related thread for this...
anyway is it possible to scale in inventor just like we use to do in CAD?
i mean let say the previuos dwg made in inventor is in inches and i want it into mm is it possible to scale it? same with mm and i just want to enlarge it... wether it is a ipt. or aim.
pls. advise...
thanks in advance...
Lazer
19th Apr 2008, 05:01 pm
Yes, in the 2d sketch panel you have the scale icon, click that and you can scale the sketch to what you want.
A .iam can be scaled by using it as a derived part.
Click derived part, open the .iam and then you can scale it.
JD Mather
19th Apr 2008, 05:28 pm
To expand a bit.
Start a new ipt file and exit sketch mode. Select Derived Component and the file you wish to scale. Set the desired scale.
or in your original file go to Tools>Document Settings and change units. You will then have to edit each dimension to the correct value. One method of doing this is in Parameters.
By the way. Inventor is CAD.
kidoy
20th Apr 2008, 06:37 am
i got it what you are trying to tell me guys, but what i mean is that we could just scale by x2,x3,x5,x10 not to change into other units...
like we used to do in detailing (sorry i know we talking about 3d here but just an example) let say we have 8X6 pump and i need on my drawing a 10X12 pump since that i have a block of 8X6 and it was too small for a 10x12 what i will do is scale it first to aquire the same size as 10x12 visually then i will change the nozzle size as per the pump size i want(10X12) i hope you understand what i mean...
lets go back in inventor let say i have a .ipt part and i want it be big by x3 as the original size can i just do scaling just simply multifly it by 3 o what so ever?
JD Mather
20th Apr 2008, 04:17 pm
...lets go back in inventor let say i have a .ipt part and i want it be big by x3 as the original size can i just do scaling just simply multifly it by 3 o what so ever?
Yes. Of course a part x3 is not the same part as the original (think in the real world equivalents) so it should not have the same part number and if file=part (virtual=physical) it should be a different file.
Welcome to the real world instead of the world of make-believe that causes so many engineering mistakes (didn't a Mars exploration spacecraft crash about 10 years ago because one contractor was using imperial units and another metric).
Therefore derive the new x3 from the original or fix the original.
kidoy
21st Apr 2008, 05:46 am
it seems that the answer is no...
to clarify it again, the situation is, i already have a 3d model then i just want to scale it by x3 that,s my point JD...
what i understand to your post is i will make 3d model by scaling all the dimension from the start by x3???? is that right?
JD Mather
21st Apr 2008, 01:26 pm
it seems that the answer is no...
The answer is yes. It is easy to scale a part. But if you want the parametric dimensions scaled it is a bit more work.
kidoy
21st Apr 2008, 02:41 pm
jd this is what i want to know in parametric dimension (3d model) how can i scale it the way i ask before QUICK SCALING?
you can give me a simple example let say a box (3d model) in quick scale (multifly by 3) how it will be?
pls.. advise me bro...
Mr T
21st Apr 2008, 05:38 pm
Ok, you have a part or an assembly.
1) Open a new part,then look for the Feature DERIVED component.
2) When the file dialogue pops up use the Model - part or assembly you want to scale -typing in whatever value up or down.
3) Save as Whatever.
Whatever you change in the original the derived one will change automcatically.
Nick
arusho
21st Apr 2008, 09:25 pm
Direct from Autodesk support:
"There is no way to scale a part parametrically. The only way to scale a part is to create a derived component, there you are allowed to scale the part however you only have a solid body"
kidoy
22nd Apr 2008, 05:53 am
ok thank you so much guys now i know, then my boss cant push me hard on this....
thank you also JD....
Mr T
22nd Apr 2008, 10:13 am
Direct from Autodesk support:
"There is no way to scale a part parametrically. The only way to scale a part is to create a derived component, there you are allowed to scale the part however you only have a solid body"
But, you could change a parts sizes based on another parameter.
Nick
JD Mather
22nd Apr 2008, 01:49 pm
Direct from Autodesk support:
"There is no way to scale a part parametrically. The only way to scale a part is to create a derived component, there you are allowed to scale the part however you only have a solid body"
If that is the information you got then Autodesk support is incorrect.
Aardvark
22nd Apr 2008, 03:02 pm
With proper planning you can easily scale a part by changing one or two dimensions. However, this requires that you spend a fair amount of time up front setting up equations for all of your parameters. A simple box can be scaled fairly easily, an exhaust manifold for an automobile will be more difficult and possibly impossible.
Open the parameters window in your model.
Add a unitless (ul) custom parameter called Scale with any value you choose.
Add "*Scale" to every dimension.
Now if you change the value of "Scale" the part will change size.
arusho
22nd Apr 2008, 05:38 pm
If that is the information you got then Autodesk support is incorrect.
Thats what they told me.
You see what I'm up against?
kidoy
23rd Apr 2008, 08:31 am
i think i brought up a good thread... but still it will be complicated hope there will be more easy way to do it...
JD Mather
23rd Apr 2008, 01:03 pm
i think i brought up a good thread... but still it will be complicated hope there will be more easy way to do it...
If you can't figure out how to do it zip and attach your file here. Someone will do the scale for you.
kidoy
23rd Apr 2008, 02:32 pm
thank you very much JD, i realized that instead of dying to scale it why I can do it in a proper way so that engineering mistake will be less... anyway i will figure it out in some other days...
thank you verymuch again...
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