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CatCup
23rd Apr 2008, 01:24 am
Hi,

I created the below custom linetype.

*ARROW_LINES,---- > ---- > ---- > ---- >
A,5,-.1,[">",STANDARD,S=10,R=0.0,X=0,Y=-5],10

It shows up fine in the model window, but when I view it in the layout or plot preview windows (or plot it), it displays as a Continuous linetype. The layer it's on is set to plot.

Any ideas why the linetype doesn't show up?

I'm using AutoCAD Civil 3D 2008.

dumfatnhappy
23rd Apr 2008, 01:40 am
Hi,

I created the below custom linetype.

*ARROW_LINES,---- > ---- > ---- > ---- >
A,5,-.1,[">",STANDARD,S=10,R=0.0,X=0,Y=-5],10

It shows up fine in the model window, but when I view it in the layout or plot preview windows (or plot it), it displays as a Continuous linetype. The layer it's on is set to plot.

Any ideas why the linetype doesn't show up?

I'm using AutoCAD Civil 3D 2008.

make sure your LTscale and PSltscale are set to 1. do a regenall and see how it looks

CatCup
23rd Apr 2008, 01:45 am
Still no good :|. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

dumfatnhappy
23rd Apr 2008, 01:55 am
Hi,

I created the below custom linetype.

*ARROW_LINES,---- > ---- > ---- > ---- >
A,5,-.1,[">",STANDARD,S=10,R=0.0,X=0,Y=-5],10

It shows up fine in the model window, but when I view it in the layout or plot preview windows (or plot it), it displays as a Continuous linetype. The layer it's on is set to plot.

Any ideas why the linetype doesn't show up?

I'm using AutoCAD Civil 3D 2008.


ok, I missed the dirt merchant part :wink: I'll assume it's a pline, if so have you done a pedit and checked the Ltype? should be on...then regenall once back in paper space

CatCup
23rd Apr 2008, 02:15 am
The line is a polyline. Ltype was off, so I turned it on, but it didn't make any difference.

dumfatnhappy
23rd Apr 2008, 02:41 am
can you post.....n/m. you need 10 post's to be able to post. It doesn't sound that tricky if you can actually see it correctly at some point. See if someone else chimes in (until you can post it anyway)
sorry man :oops:

Alan Cullen
23rd Apr 2008, 04:19 am
Try playing around with the values in your definition text. I draw in metres, and I played with your definition to end up with this....


*1T,---- > ---- > ---- > ---- >
A,5,-0.5,[">",ISO,S=2.5,R=0.0,X=-1.4,Y=-0.9]-0.5,5

And this is the linestyle I got.....

5506

dumfatnhappy
23rd Apr 2008, 04:31 am
you cats and your metres (units in general allready)........ there is always info left out


argggg..........:P

CatCup
23rd Apr 2008, 04:41 am
I'm drawing in meters too - albeit at a very large scale. My average line is about 400m long.

When I use the linestyle you posted, it just looks like a Continuous line - even when I zoom in as far as possible.

hellnback
23rd Apr 2008, 04:46 am
Is it a PL or is it a 3d Poly with different Z values?

dumfatnhappy
23rd Apr 2008, 04:47 am
ok Alan...I'm throwing it at you. without *all* the info...only so much I can guess at....
(I used to be really good at this....but then came v13.........)

Alan Cullen
23rd Apr 2008, 04:49 am
Check that your LTSCALE is set to 1. Also select one of your lines that is showing up incorrectly, and check that the linetype scale on that is also set to 1.

CatCup
23rd Apr 2008, 04:52 am
All the linetype scales are set to 1. The line is a polyline, and the line segments show the Z coordinate as 0.00, but the end points have various different z coordinates.

dumfatnhappy
23rd Apr 2008, 04:56 am
ok part of that made sense to me. the end points?
I'm out......
(but then I'm not a dirt merchant either....:o )

Alan Cullen
23rd Apr 2008, 05:09 am
Use the Express command FLATTEN on that polyline, and see what happens then......

PS_Port
23rd Apr 2008, 06:30 am
Doesn't the text style name, `iso' for Alans and 'standard' for cats, control the initial size of the text `>' in the complex linetype definition..

maybe the text style size should be looked at...

I really haven't had too much time to muck around with linetypes..:unsure:

Alan Cullen
23rd Apr 2008, 06:42 am
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Good catch, Paul. I'm such an idiot.....I keep doing that. :P

Sorry, CatCup. Try this.....


*ARROW_LINES,---- > ---- > ---- > ---- >
A,5,-0.5,[">",STANDARD,S=2.5,R=0.0,X=-1.4,Y=-0.9]-0.5,5

CatCup
23rd Apr 2008, 08:05 am
The last suggestion still doesn't make the arrows show up in the layout views - though for some reason it reverses the direction of the arrows in the model view. I also tried flattening all the lines, to no avail.

Alan Cullen
23rd Apr 2008, 08:34 am
I'm rapidly running out of ideas here. Try and get your 10 posts up so you can write that polyline out to a block, and post the block here as a drawing file. Then we can all have a look at it and try to figure out what's going on. :)

Ritch7
23rd Apr 2008, 08:40 am
custom linetype wont print correctly = scale issues, theirs no other soultion

CatCup
23rd Apr 2008, 08:48 am
Well, here are a couple of screen shots - one in the model view, showing the line correctly, and one in the layout view, showing the line as a continuous line.

I also tried (way back when I first hit the problem) increasing the scale massively (to 1000). It didn't change the layout view at all.

PS_Port
24th Apr 2008, 12:01 am
This is just a guess..
the text style `standard' you are using in your complex linetype might be set to annotative.. which might be causing your scaling issue.:)

CatCup
24th Apr 2008, 12:41 am
Nope, the text style isn't set to annotative...

PS_Port
24th Apr 2008, 01:01 am
Couple of questions

what is default textsize in style dialog box for `standard' "

and what is CELTSCALE set to ?

I'm starting to run out of ideas

CatCup
24th Apr 2008, 01:06 am
There's no 'textsize field' in the dialog box I get; there is a height field, which is set to zero. I tried changing it, and it makes a difference in the model window, but I still can't see anything in the layout window.

CELTSCALE is set to 1.00

PS_Port
24th Apr 2008, 01:08 am
sorry I ment height, that all sounds cool... anyone else have ideas???:unsure:

Alan Cullen
24th Apr 2008, 01:18 am
Yeah, get CatCup up to 10 posts, so he can post the drawing here.

So keep asking questions, Paul..... :P

CatCup
24th Apr 2008, 01:21 am
So how do I post the drawing here?

"he"?

PS_Port
24th Apr 2008, 01:28 am
You can attach a .dwg just like you did with the screen shots (I assume)
'Manage attachements' in the `Additional Options' section when you are replying to a thread.

You might need to clean up a section of the dwg as you can only post a 250k file.:)

Thanks for the help Alan..:P

CatCup
24th Apr 2008, 01:31 am
Here it is.

Hang on, the file I just posted - a cut down version - does have the arrows showing in the layout view, but the original still doesn't.

PS_Port
24th Apr 2008, 01:54 am
Atleast we might be narrowing the problem....:lol:

I'll take a look at the file later, but as you stated, it works in that file, so I don't think I'm going to find something there.

Alan Cullen
24th Apr 2008, 02:08 am
How big is the original file?

CatCup
24th Apr 2008, 02:32 am
The original file is 8MB.

I tried pasting the cut down version back into the original file, but the arrows still weren't visible in the layout view. I presume this is because the two files have different settings somewhere... The cut down version was made by pasting the arrows layer into the acadiso template.

PS_Port
24th Apr 2008, 02:48 am
Try wblocking the whole file into the acadiso template just to see.

CatCup
24th Apr 2008, 03:02 am
Well, I wblocked the whole file - I'm not sure if it was into the acadiso template or not.

Now there are no arrows visible at all - even when I increase the scale of the arrows to 100.