Title Blocks as an Xref or a Block?

[chulse]

I have seen title blocks added to drawings as a block with attributes and as an xrefed dwg.
Which method do you prefer and why?

[Dipali]

This Has Been Discussed In Length In One Of The Thread Some Time In Feb. I Will Find U A Link If I Get Soem Spare Time Later In The Day.

Welll For Me I Prefer 'x-ref'

http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20602&highlight=titleblock

[LCE]

Block with atts, although I am looking at having as xref at the moment.

[matt41129]

Blocks with attributes, if the title block changes any you can just insert and redifine. I think its alot easier.

[rustysilo]

XREF, because in our case we do not like to release our logo in cad format to other companies generally. If we email a cad file we just email it where in the past when it was in the drawing we'd have to go through each tab to remove the logo. Then we'd have to save the file separately to email it. This was too time consuming.

[architecture68-raff]

We do a combination between xref and blocks w/ attributes.

The parts of the title block which are common to all sheets (copyright notice, company logo, issue date/revision date, etc) are part of the xref.

Values which are unique to each sheet (sheet number, etc.) are attributes in a block.

[Noahma]

ours are x-refed as well. Makes keeping them all the exact same very easy.

[chulse]

ours are x-refed as well. Makes keeping them all the exact same very easy.

This has been my approach...

[Dipali]

We do a combination between xref and blocks w/ attributes.

The parts of the title block which are common to all sheets (copyright notice, company logo, issue date/revision date, etc) are part of the xref.

Values which are unique to each sheet (sheet number, etc.) are attributes in a block.


I use same method

[Alan Cullen]

I bring the title sheet into model space, explode it, remove that data that changes for every layout tab (like title, drawn by, scale, drawing number etc), then write it back out to a BLOCK (not WBLOCK).

That way if I have misspelt something, like the Clients name, or whatever, I can use BEDIT to update the lot.

I have been doing it that way for years, and as everyone here knows, I hate xrefs. :P So that is how I do it, and will continue to do it. :twisted: o:)

[chulse]

I bring the title sheet into model space, explode it, remove that data that changes for every layout tab (like title, drawn by, scale, drawing number etc), then write it back out to a BLOCK (not WBLOCK).

That way if I have misspelt something, like the Clients name, or whatever, I can use BEDIT to update the lot.

I have been doing it that way for years, and as everyone here knows, I hate xrefs. :P So that is how I do it, and will continue to do it. :twisted: o:)

I figured as much from you Alan. :wink:

[Alan Cullen]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[ZenCad1960]

We use strictly Xrefing for our Title Sheets, keeping only the information in it that will be consistent throughout the project. If a clients name is misspelled or an address change needs to be updated, we can change it once in the Xref and it will change throughout the set consistently. The other parts of information that is only relative to that particular sheet is part of a block of nothing but attributes.

If you are working with a large set of drawings, then it is imperative to keep each sheet consistent throughout the set. Xrefs above all do this best.

Is it the only way? No. Is it the best way? In my opinion, absolutely yes but opinions vary so it boils down to how many sheets do you want to edit when a change needs to be made to the Border information on 234 sheets, Once ore 234 times?

[ML0940]

I have seen and used both methods.
If I was going to xref a title block, then it would have attributes that I know will be used in each layout through the entire project with the exception being the few that would have to be edited drawing by drawing, such as drawing number and number of pages etc.

Otherwise, I think insert is a better method. xrefs are great but I only use them when necessary.

Has anyone dived into sheet sets and fields?
Now, they are really powerful.
The fields are the answer to not having to use attributes in title blocks again. They definetely take some time to get use to for sure.

M

[ML0940]

At one point, I even had a scenario to whereas we built the titleblocks in components.

The user was able to build the title sheets via pulldown mnu and what was needed specifically.

We did use the xref method for project level attributes but other components specific to different layouts were inserted in as needed.

We then started migrating to Sheet Sets and fields, eliminating the need for any attributes in the title blocks.

It was a real pain in the a*s but I was able to piece together enough VBA-Sheet Set code to automate the custom field process as well.

It is one of those things that take a lot of time up front but pay off time fold once every one gets it.

ML

[asos2000]

We do a combination between xref and blocks w/ attributes.

The parts of the title block which are common to all sheets (copyright notice, company logo, issue date/revision date, etc) are part of the xref.

Values which are unique to each sheet (sheet number, etc.) are attributes in a block.


I am using the same Method

[ML0940]

Asos

That is good, it makes sense.
Have you ever used Sheet Sets?
They are very powerful

ML

[stevsmith]

I keep the title block as a block with attributes.
Unlike most people though, I dont use paper space. I save the drawings and fab drawings as individual items.