Drawing at the scale 2:1

[Orbit]

I was using MVSETUP to enter my drawing scale but does not recognize the scale 2:1.

I draw at the scale 1:1 and when it was coming to ploting I wanted to change from there the scale but did not work it.

I am using AC 2002.

[robfowler]

To plot at a scale of 2:1 (from a Layout) then make the viewport active. Use the Viewports toolbar and select the scale 2:1 from the drop-down list.
Now you will be able to plot the drawing at twice the scale of what it is in model space.

Just out of curiosity, because I have never used the MVSETUP command, what is the advantage of doing it the MVSETUP way?

I always have my Viewports toolbar docked just to the right of the Standard toolbar because there is a nice wee space for it there and I use it quite a lot.

I tried running the MVSETUP command and to do the same thing as I described above seemed to be more complicated and took longer. Here is the command in action:

mvsetup
Enter an option [Align/Create/Scale viewports/Options/Title block/Undo]: s
Select the viewports to scale...
Select objects: 1 found
Select objects:
Set the ratio of paper space units to model space units...
Enter the number of paper space units <1.0>:
Enter the number of model space units <1.0>: .5

This did the same thing but is a much more cumbersome way of setting the floating viewport scale than using the Viewports toolbar. Notice in the last line that you have to set the model space units to .5 to get it to appear twice the size in the viewport of the Layout.

Just my tuppence worth!

Rob.

[Orbit]

Thank you, Rob

It works nicely the plotting at the scale of 2:1.

I always use MVSETUP when I start a new draw if it has different setups. With MVSETUP I specify the scale, paper size, the default setting, etc. I am going to work with.

If there is another way to do all that or just a different way please share it with us.

However, your advice about plotting at the scale 2:1 works.

Thank you

[Orbit]

My command in action:

Command: mvsetup

Initializing...
Enable paper space? [No/Yes] <Y>: n

Enter units type [Scientific/Decimal/Engineering/Architectural/Metric]: m

Metric Scales
=================

(5000) 1:5000
(2000) 1:2000
(1000) 1:1000
(500) 1:500
(200) 1:200

(100) 1:100
(75) 1:75
(50) 1:50
(20) 1:20
(10) 1:10
(5) 1:5
(1) FULL

Enter the scale factor: 1

Enter the paper width: 210

Enter the paper height: 297

[robfowler]

I normally setup a template drawing which has the border, text styles, dimension styles, layers and the layouts the way I want them. The layouts can be configured to the default plotter/printer and page sizes specified.

Because I teach in a school we normally print to A3 sized paper and the pupils find it easy to use the template file to start new drawings where all they have to concentrate on is the actual draughting.

We use separate templates for 2D work and 3D work.

Everyone has their own methods and it's what each is used to and suits them best is the way to go.

Rob.

[robfowler]

Just re-read your post from above.

"My command in action:

Command: mvsetup

Initializing...
Enable paper space? [No/Yes] <Y>: n"

Are you printing from model space? (model tab)

I always print from a Layout (Layout tab selected). That way you have control of the scales for each floating viewport and the paper size, orientation and which printer to use. You can also lay down annotation and insert border blocks which don't appear in model space.

Printing/plotting from a Layout gives you much greater control over the final print.

Rob.

[Orbit]

It happens sometimes to plot from model but that is not a rule. It depends on how big or complicate it a draw is.

I was wondering if you plot on an A3 paper also mechanical drawings with small dimensions. You made me a bit confused.

You mentionate it a setup for 3D. Can you go further with details? Maybe an example would do fine.

[Mr T]

3D is probably with HIDEPLOT etc turned on/off and various viewports with views or ready for SOLDRAW.

Nick :lol:

[robfowler]

I setup a 3D template to provide, in model space, viewports (3 right), normally a plan, elevation and SE isometric view. The same template has Layout tabs preconfigured, one for A3 and another for A4. The text and dimension styles are also set and a layer called Viewports created so that pupils can activate it when creating floating viewports in model space.

The template is just a time saver and even when working in 3D we have a need to produce 2D drawings from the model fully annotated with dimensions to BSI standards.

For us teachers time is in short supply to get the pupils through the work they have to do to get the standards we aspire to. Although the template saves time in the long run it doesn't mean to say that I don't teach them how to create layers, text and dimension styles or how to generally layout a drawing. It's just that by providing templates I know the standards of presentation are more consistent and fault finding for me is easier - and there's always plenty of that to do!

Rob.