Newuser2 Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Greetings, I am using a student version of Auto cad 2008 and still learning my way around the software. All of my resources (books, tutorial Cd's, etc.) are based around this version of auto cad. I would like to purchase a copy of 2008 LT for my own personal use (for now) but am having problems finding one. "For now", what does that mean? Without going into to many details here is the scenario. I have a collection of drawings (hand drawn) to redraw in cad to demonstrate it's usefulness. It seems a bit unprofessional (as well as illegal) to do this with a student version, and at this point I don't want to take on the task of using a new interface (newer version of the software) on top of everything else I am trying to accomplish. My hope is that others will see that cad is superior as an option over old school conventional drafting, to accomplish this, I am going to purchase the software on my own. Any ideas? Quote
ReMark Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Advice? Yes, be careful. AutoDesk doesn't consider 2008 to be the most recent version therefore you can't buy it from one of their "authorized" resellers. That leaves the gray area of eBay, craigslist, and "other". AutoDesk is taking the position they are under no legal obligation to provide you with an authorization code to use the software past 30 days of loading it on your computer. They may do it; they may not. Their choice. It's difficult to get around this because the authorization code can only be legally obtained via the Internet or by calling AutoDesk. It is a multi-character code consisting of 16 groups of letters and numbers in sequences of four characters each. The registrant needs to first supply a genuine serial number that AutoDesk recognizes. Quote
Glen Smith Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 I think you are going to have more luck learning the new interface, esp. since you are still learning. Download a copy of 2010 which you can use for 30 days to see how different the interface is. AutoDesk is very picky about users reselling old copies - they don't want it to happen. Which can make registering a used copy difficult. Determining whether an old copy is used or new is hard as well - unless you are buying from a well known vendor. Most vendors are not going to have 2008 still available. Try the demo and use the tutorials and advice here on migrating your interface from older versions. Good luck. Glen Quote
Tiger Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 I'm going to contradict myself here and say that go ahead and get a 2010 version of Autocad. Yes, there are plenty of differences between 2008 and 2010, but nothing that you with a will to learn will not figure out. I say contradict myself because I am very much pro a new education (at least half a day) for each new release... but in this case, I would say that the risk of ending up with a perhaps shady version of AutoCAD will be greater than the risk that 2010 will confuse you, if you follow what I mean. Quote
Tankman Posted November 7, 2009 Posted November 7, 2009 Which ever way you go is up to you. I did check eBay, AutoCAD '08 is between $300.00 USD and up, slightly over $400.00 USD. Lots of books, etc., but you sound like you have a library already. Quote
ReMark Posted November 7, 2009 Posted November 7, 2009 There are five copies of LT 2008 on eBay at the moment (11/7 - 4:41 pm EST). Just out of curiousity I emailed the seller and asked the following: 1) How did you come to acquire this software? 2) If AutoDesk, for any reason, fails to provide an authorization code to activate the software will you provide a 100% refund of the purchase price? Let's see what the response might be. It could take 1-2 days so hang tight. This should be interesting. Quote
Tankman Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 Let's see what the response might be. It could take 1-2 days so hang tight. This should be interesting. Keep us up to date ReMark. The purchaser should also use, i.e.: PayPal, just in case of any dispute. Some of these offers ship from only where HE knows. Often the seller disappears into the wild blue yonder. There are a few deals available from Nigeria too! Quote
Cad64 Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 Some of these offers ship from only where HE knows. Often the seller disappears into the wild blue yonder. That's why you need to check the sellers info. Never purchase any high dollar items from someone with no feedback or a lot of negative feedback. And if you're unsure about anything, ask the seller questions prior to purchasing. There's still no guarantee that you will receive exactly what you were expecting though. But sellers with a lot of good positive feedback are generally trustworthy. But when it comes to Autocad, I still don't know if Autodesk will actually honor these Ebay purchases or not. There have been some courtroom victories, but I have not heard anyone from Autodesk come out and say yes, its ok to buy Autocad on Ebay from independent sellers. So purchase at your own risk. Quote
ReMark Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 I'll be curious to hear what spin the guy puts on his answers. Of course I'm expecting a lot here...honesty. Hmmm...wonder what my chances are? Quote
ReMark Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 Just checked eBay and someone else is selling a full version of 2009 and in his ad states the software is able to be loaded on four machines. This must be a "licensing" thing like when I buy a copy of Norton Anti-Virus good for loading on three machines? I sent the guy the same type of email I sent the person selling LT 2008. Now I have two inquires out there. Quote
ReMark Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 I have received responses from both sellers. Here they are verbatim. From the seller of LT 2008: "I will give u a refund if it dosent work" And from the seller of 2009 (full): "I am a wholeseller I will walk u thru the process and u dnt have to activate over he Internet or by phone and I will gaurentee a refund if it dosent work but It will" Neither fills me with a sense of confidence. Can we have any more misspellings please? Notice that "doesn't" is spelled, incorrectly, exactly the same in both responses despite the fact they were supposedly sent from two different sellers. Quote
Cad64 Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 You don't have to activate over the internet or by phone? Then how the hell do you activate it? I guess he is going to activate it? This sounds totally bogus. And yeah, the spelling and grammar are identical. Its got to be the same guy. Quote
ReMark Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 When I pressed him to provide details his responses were "U can refer to the add dude" and "What r they u need to refer to the add it's all there" Again, I get two responses listing different email addresses and one word "add" is misspelled the same in both. Re: AutoCAD 2009 (full) - able to load on four machines. I pressed the seller to explain how is it he can sell the equivalent of four licenses (at roughly $3500+ each) for a mere Buy It Now price of $407. I then said if the software is legit he should be able to say how he obtained it and be able to prove it too. Quote
Cad64 Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 When I pressed him to provide details his responses were "U can refer to the add dude" and "What r they u need to refer to the add it's all there" Oh, this guy sounds real professional. I completely believe that his software is legit. Quote
Dipali Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 As adviced by others buy copy of 2010 LT. F or 2 reasons 1. 2010 LT has many GOOD BASIC FEATURES WHICH WERE MISSING IN 2008 2. IT IS TOO EXPANSIVE TO UPGRADE FORM 2008 TO 2010 (IT COSTED ME LITTLE MORE THAN HALF PRICE OF NEW 2010 LT)OR WATEVER VERSION AVAILBLE WAT THE TIME YOU DECIDE TO UPGRADE. Quote
ReMark Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 This response came unsolicited this morning: "I work with autodesk I am a wholeseller that's y it's cheap I gurantee my work if nt u can have ur money back also it cheap bcuz it's on DVD r disk" He even provided a cell phone number to call if I had further questions. I wasn't aware that putting software on a DVD-R disk made it any cheaper! This guy is a piece of work. I wonder how one would go about confirming that an individual is a "wholeseller" of AutoCAD? He'd have to be listed as an authorized reseller then wouldn't he? Maybe I'll ask. Quote
dbroada Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 he doesn't actually say that he works FOR autodesk. Neither does he say that he works with them AS a wholeseller. Maybe he cleans their windows and sells their software as a side line. Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.