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white lightning
3rd Nov 2005, 11:35 pm
Hi,

Does anyone know if AutoCad works on a Mac or do they do a version to work on a Mac?

Squirreldip
4th Nov 2005, 12:04 am
They used to - not for quite some time now.

Anyone recall what version they went Windoze only?

f700es
4th Nov 2005, 02:30 am
I beleive that r12 was the last Mac version (last Unix versionas well) IIRC. I know that the Sun Sparc20's in the Engineering lab at UNC-Charlotte had r12 on them and we ran Solaris.

Will we see a new Mac version anytime soon? Not sure. OSX makes a good argument BUT with still a less that 5% user base it would be a hard sell. Now with Apple movingt to Intel :lol: who knows what will happen. I have friends that have already gotten a cracked x86 copy of OSX working on a non apple intel box so maybe AutoDesk will look again at the Mac platform.

Having said all this there are some good Mac CAD programs out there. 2 that have good promise and that are pretty cheap are TurboCAD 2D Mac which sells for $99 and HighDesign 2D which sells for $350 I believe. Both look to be good 2D drafting programs.

white lightning
16th Nov 2005, 01:05 am
Cheers for your replys. I'm buying a new machine but really fancied a Mac instead, hence the question.

tommy
16th Nov 2005, 10:05 am
no no no no no no no, macs are the least compatible computers in the world!!! dont get one!

gcp310
16th Nov 2005, 10:19 am
Theres an advantage to that, Tommy, No virus's. :geek:

Id have one over a Windoz/pc anyday. Much nicer all round. if it were not for damn autocad and cnc programs.

Besides, now that Apple are looking at using an Intel chip, maybe i can load the next Apple O/S on my home pc.

G

f700es
16th Nov 2005, 11:37 am
Theres an advantage to that, Tommy, No virus's. :geek:

Id have one over a Windoz/pc anyday. Much nicer all round. if it were not for damn autocad and cnc programs.

Besides, now that Apple are looking at using an Intel chip, maybe i can load the next Apple O/S on my home pc.

G

I have "friends" that have already done that. A pre release of OSX x86 has gotten out and it can be installed on a certain type of Intel mb and cpu. Now the flip side is that when the new x86 Macs start to show up there should be no reason that you cannot install WinXP on say a seperate partition on it's hard drive and have a dual boot Mac ;)

tommy
16th Nov 2005, 12:41 pm
Theres an advantage to that, Tommy, No virus's. :geek:

Id have one over a Windoz/pc anyday. Much nicer all round. if it were not for damn autocad and cnc programs.

Besides, now that Apple are looking at using an Intel chip, maybe i can load the next Apple O/S on my home pc.

G

hmm true :P, i suppose it depends mostly on the purpose of the system and what programs you want to use

just looked at the powermac G5, 4 graphics cards, 2 dual core processors, 8 screens. you have got a point gcp! but the pricetag is very $$$ im guessing? i know 4 graphics cards would be a lot on their own anyway! plus the screens, i better start saving :roll:

f700es
16th Nov 2005, 01:21 pm
Theres an advantage to that, Tommy, No virus's. :geek:

Id have one over a Windoz/pc anyday. Much nicer all round. if it were not for damn autocad and cnc programs.

Besides, now that Apple are looking at using an Intel chip, maybe i can load the next Apple O/S on my home pc.

G

hmm true :P, i suppose it depends mostly on the purpose of the system and what programs you want to use

just looked at the powermac G5, 4 graphics cards, 2 dual core processors, 8 screens. you have got a point gcp! but the pricetag is very $$$ im guessing? i know 4 graphics cards would be a lot on their own anyway! plus the screens, i better start saving :roll:

Correction, not 4 graphics cards only 2. Macs have finally gotten SLi or dual PCIe graphics. 2 cards with two heads each. PCs have had this for a while. They are also behind on the dual core technology. Apple still cannot get a notebook with a 64bit cpu while AMD has had this for a while. There is a MAJOR heat issue with Apple's IBM 64-bit cpus. Hence no G5 notebooks. I doubt you will ever see one either. Apple will make the jump to x86 1st.

tommy
16th Nov 2005, 01:33 pm
so i should still get a tyan thunder K8WE then :P. how do they get 8 screens with 2 cards though :?

f700es
16th Nov 2005, 02:39 pm
so i should still get a tyan thunder K8WE then :P. how do they get 8 screens with 2 cards though :?

Video splitters and probably like Matrox does. They have a dual head card that can run 3 displays. It is also a PCI card so imagine if you have 3 open PCI slots ;)
Nothing really new, just new for Apple. They are the masters at "smoke and mirrors". As you can tell I am not an Apple fan. I have no problem with the product just Steve Jobs and his ego! Their performance claims have been shown to be "smoke and mirrors" as well. Performance between platforms is pretty much even on the high end. As well as price on the high end. Is one better than the other? Depends on what you are doing. Both are just tools to acomplish a task.

tommy
16th Nov 2005, 07:40 pm
oooh ok, not quite as advanced as they seem then.
im on an intel atm, but im gona build an AMD dual opteron system because i still want a really powerful single processor for gaming :P.
i tried 2 screens btw :o :o, i had to buy a second 19" after "temporarily" borrowing my brothers :P. i said i'd give him my present 19" LCD but and keep his 17" LCD but umm well i think i've changed my mind :lol:

Paul Sweet
16th Nov 2005, 07:42 pm
You have to use Virtual PC to run ACAD on a Mac.

There are several good CAD programs for Macs. VectorWorks and ArchiCAD are 3D CAD programs that were developed on Macs then ported to PCs. PowerCADD (www.engsw.com) is a good 2D program that is very easy to use.

Architosh has several threads on ACAD on Macs: http://architoshforums.forest.net/forumdisplay.php?f=12

f700es
16th Nov 2005, 08:09 pm
You have to use Virtual PC to run ACAD on a Mac.

There are several good CAD programs for Macs. VectorWorks and ArchiCAD are 3D CAD programs that were developed on Macs then ported to PCs. PowerCADD (www.engsw.com) is a good 2D program that is very easy to use.

Architosh has several threads on ACAD on Macs: http://architoshforums.forest.net/forumdisplay.php?f=12

At the moment you do. Remember that MS has bought the company that made VPC ;) They did this about 8 months before Apple made the anouncement that they were going to drop PowerPC chips in favor of Intel X86 chips. OSX always has been a dual platform OS. Apple just did not let on to the majority that it was. Their is also talk of "Rosetta". A technology that allows binaries from one platform to run on another platform.
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/universal_binary/universal_binary_exec_a/chapter_7_section_1.html
This is related to "Quick Transit"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTransit
This is BIG folks! Imagine running Acad on a linux or OSX box or FinalCut in windows?
This is just the begining.

f700es
16th Nov 2005, 08:16 pm
There are several good CAD programs for Macs. VectorWorks and ArchiCAD are 3D CAD programs that were developed on Macs then ported to PCs. PowerCADD (www.engsw.com) is a good 2D program that is very easy to use.

Architosh has several threads on ACAD on Macs: http://architoshforums.forest.net/forumdisplay.php?f=12

PowerCADD is one solution.
A few more would be..

HighDesign - http://www.ilexsoft.com/highdesign/
Standard edition is $150 while the pro one is $350.

TurboCAD also has a mac CAD solution - http://www.turbocad.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=321
Not bad for $100.