Problems with views and printing

Hay, can you help me please!

 

I turned my 3D drawing in SW isometric view, now I want to print it, but with a frame with text data in it, I can not simply copy the frame in this drawing, because it would also turn SW isometric! I need the frame flat to mark the contour of it (window) and the drawing SW isometric in it!

 

 

Thanks!

By frame you mean "viewport" right?

 

Where do you want to place your text? In model space or in your paper space layout?

 

Can you post an image?

Now it looks dumb like this! You will probably get how I want it by seeing it!

paraugs.dwg

paraugs[rev 1].dwgSIDRIX:

 

Here is the problem as I see it.

 

You have both your model space objects and your title block and border sitting over in model space. The recommended method currently is to place your title block and border in a paper space layout at a scale of 1:1. Objects drawn in model space should be drawn FULL size. It doesn't matter if those objects are as small as a tack or as large as the Eiffel Tower. Draw everything FULL size. Are you familiar with this concept?

 

What sheet size is your title block and border sized to fit on?

 

What scale were you planning to plot your drawing at?

 

You have waaaaaaaaaaay too many scales in your scale list and many of them make no sense at all. What's with the scale like this: 1:1000_1_1_2_4? Makes no sense as that is not a recognizable scale to AutoCAD that I know of.

 

I took a chance and edited your drawing. I moved the title block and border into paper space using the CHSPACE command. I created a Viewports layer and set its color to magenta and disabled printing the layer. I set the viewport scale to 1:500 and locked the display so the viewport's scale cannot be changed without first unlocking it. In my opinion this is how it should be done but without knowing the answers to the questions above I'm mostly guessing at what I did.

Edited May 20, 2011 by ReMark

Hay

Sorry that I answer so late

Thanks for information, besides my page I want in ISO A3 format (420x 297) with frame borders from left 20 mm and from top, bottom and right 10 mm, but I just found that border in drawing that I attached wasn’t in proper size! And the same drawing I want in scale 1:250,

I was trying to manage with the options that you used, but I had some problems, I made an actual scale (1:1) page and frame in the paper space “view”, and a viewport in size of an A3 page and changed the scale of the drawing with zoom to 1:250, now I would like to freeze it and somehow manage the drawing in the center of the page, but I don’t know how! L

You might have a layout in the size of an A3 page but not a viewport. That are not one-in-the-same.

 

So let's review.

 

You want to work with an ISO A3 page size.

 

You want a viewport scale of 1:250.

 

You want the drawing centered in the page.

 

You want to "freeze" the drawing? Do you mean "lock the display" so the viewport scale cannot be changed accidentally?

 

Did you clean out your scale list yet?

 

What was the purpose of all the odd scales like the one I mentioned previously?

 

Post what you have so far. Someone here will take a look at it and make recommendations.

Did you clean out your scale list yet?

 

What was the purpose of all the odd scales like the one I mentioned previously?

There's probably no purpose. It's still the age-old problem as started in 2008. Those names come from using RefEdit, I find them still appearing if RefEdit is used even in 2009/10/11. Not to mention the _XREF scales also still happen (though usually only one level deep), they're just "hidden" these days!

 

TIP for the OP: Look into using the command-line version of ScaleListEdit (when typing into the command line, prefix a minus sign to force non-dialog version). Then use its Reset option. Seeing as you're on 2008, please ensure you've got the latest update as this was the version with the most trouble with scales. If you want your own specialized scales, then the Reset option is a FUBAR thing - look for my code (as well as others) on AUGI: http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?p=831196

I deleted all the weird scales with the scalelistedit,

and I want all these things

You want to "freeze" the drawing? Do you mean "lock the display" so the viewport scale cannot be changed accidentally?

And now I don’t know how to do this, what do I need to type in the dialog box, sorry that I’m not too god in the terms, but I think we get along J! I imagine that if I could freeze, sorry, lock the display and move it frozen around I could easy put different objects in my framed page, easy print many objects with the same frame without making for every one a frame.

Sidrix: Where there xrefs originally attached to the drawing?

 

"Display locked" is an option that can be found on the flyout menu when you right-click on your viewport frame. It can also be found in Quick Properties (if enabled) and in Properties. This option locks the viewport's scale

 

Are you aware that you can have more than one viewport in a layout and that each viewport can have a different scale?

 

Thanks man! I found a way!