Autocad 2002 locking up with error.

[Gregg Kuljian]

Every single time I attempt to go to Dimension, Style my program locks up. Or if I type Dimstyle.
I'm the administrator on my computor. I'm running Windows XP Pro.
There is very little information on the net regarding this error. They all say I need to be a Power User. Well, I think administrator fits that, and then some. What could my problem be? Any ideas?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/gkuljian/autocadcrash.jpg (http://photobucket.com)

[ReMark]

The following comes courtesy of www.intelcad.com

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What is unhandled access violation exception error and what is the number that follows?

When you receive an unhandled access violation error message, it means that the program that is running, either ACAD or one of ARXs running in its memory space, has violated the rules, usually by trying to read data from a non-existent memory location, or to write into memory location that has not been allocated by the program. It is often the result of poor ARX programming, where the programmer "forgets" to allocate or deallocate memory for data structures.

Acad files trigger this kind of error, when invalid data (eg. invalid pointer to another object in the database) causes acad.exe to access an invalid memory location. The number that follows unhandled access violation exception message is just the memory address where the conflict occurred; most often it doesn't provide the real clue of what corrupted the file or what type of bug you are dealing with.

When you look for help in the Autodesk newsgroups, try to provide the following details:

1. The FULL error message text as shown on the acad screen at the time of the crash.
2. Circumstances surrounding the crash (opening the file, sequence of commands, running some lisp or arx etc).
3. Operating system, local vs. network location of corrupted file.
4. Some hardware details: amount of RAM, in some cases graphic cards, pointer device.
5. Methods tried in order to recover the DWG.

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[Gregg Kuljian]

About the only thing I can say is, I have Autocad R14 installed, and it doesn't do this.
I'm using a Logitech mouse. I have gazillions of bits of memory. It's a Dell 450 workstation.
I've just installed Autocad 2002.

I almost wonder if it doesn't like being installed with R14. I kind of doubt it.

[Gregg Kuljian]

The same problem is occuring with Osnap, too.

:(

[Cad64]

Maybe you should try re-installing the program. Perhaps something got corrupted during the install. Did you make sure to disable your ant-virus software before you started?

You could also try installing the 2002 service pack 1. It may or may not help.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=2524830&linkID=2475161

[Gregg Kuljian]

I was getting ready to do an install. But this day has been so terrible, I decided it was better to rethink that. This isn't my only trouble today. I've got a backhoe with a power steering problem that I've also fixed half a dozen times, and it's acting up.

I'm also trying to get mbuttonpan to work. I had it working yesterday, but today.....nothing. I don't get it.

Just for fun, I thought I'd post this. I tried to do a hide, and got this error.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/gkuljian/error2.jpg

[Cad64]

Don't know if you've already seen this, but it comes straight from the Autodesk website.

Error: Unhandled Exception c0000005 (Access Violation Reading 0x110815e) at Address 6544bab7h
Published date: 2002-05-16
ID: TS72791

Applies to:
AutoCAD® 2002
AutoCAD® 2000i
AutoCAD® 2000

Issue

You are using a thin-client (server-side) installation of the product. When you try to run the Dimension Styles Manager, either from the Dimension menu or by entering dimstyle on the command line, AutoCAD closes, and the following error message is displayed:

Unhandled Exception c0000005 (Access Violation Reading 0x110815e) at Address 6544bab7h

Solution

This error indicates that the Windows security profiles have been modified or are not configured properly.

Users on Windows 2000 and XP client machines must have local Power User rights or better; users on other operating systems must have local User rights or better. Additionally, users must have appropriate permissions to the network, as well as read rights to the directories on the server in which the product is installed.

[Gregg Kuljian]

I just reinstalled the program. That didn't help the problem.

I'm holding off on the service pack. It has some risk associated with it that I don't want to take on quite yet.

Why doesn't R14 have these problems? That should be a clue.

[Gregg Kuljian]

OK, I was just goofing around resetting my startup template commands. I got my drawing open. Did a successful dimension style. A successful osnap dialogue box.
But, I closed Autocad. Opened another drawing, and crash.

So, it can work. But I'm still lost. Help...............

[Cad64]

What exactly did you reset? It sounds like something that should be on by default is off at startup.

[Gregg Kuljian]

I just put a /t switch in the run command. Just a default startup drawing.

I think it didn't crash because it was my first run since the reinstall.

I can reinstall it again, and see if the first run works. But I'm losing my enthusiasm for this. It's not just the crashing. It's the inability to turn mbuttonpan off. I had it working yesterday. I click the middle button, and I get the osnap settings box. Today I set mbuttonpan to zero, and the middle button just acts like the right button. Control panel, mouse, look at settings, everything's the same as yesterday. Aargh. Very tiring. But I can live without osnap settings on the fly. But not the crashing. And it's got to be fairly rare, or I'd see lots of Googles on it. Not so.

[Gregg Kuljian]

I get this error one out of about twenty times, when I attempt to open Autocad. As though it thinks I don't have the authority to use it. But why intermittently? Maybe it's a clue.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/gkuljian/error3.jpg

[Cad64]

You may want to check your administrative rights because acad doesn't think you are authorized to use it. You said in your 1st post that you are the admin on your computer and I assume you are logged in as yourself, so I would just double check those settings. I don't have xp pro here at home and I don't have 2002 so I am limited as to what else I can suggest. Maybe try setting up a new user account with full admin priveleges and re-install under that user name.

The fact that the problem is intermitent is strange though.

[Cad64]

You may want to check the properties of the template file you are using. Right click on the file in your windows explorer and check the Security tab in the properties dialog. make sure you have full permission.

[Gregg Kuljian]

It happens with any file. I have checked the properties. I thought they might be read only. Nope.

Furthermore, I see on the Autocad forums, there have been people with this problem, and so far I've found no solutions.

I uninstalled, ugh, and reinstalled, ugh, the program. Same problem.

Tried starting windows in safe mode. Same problem.

Called Dell. They don't even have an incident report on anything like it.

To be honest, I don't see the benefits in 2002 to justify keeping it. Maybe that orbital view thing. That's pretty cool.

Thanks for your replies, by the way. I appreciate it.

[Gregg Kuljian]

Thanks to Google, I found this post on getting users the abiity to function as administrators. I do not know why mine didn't work, but it has been working for the last three sessions without any problems.

It was a registry hack. This key needs to be set to full control to user.

HKCR\AutoCAD.Drawing.15 - Full Control to User



Ta da! I"m off and running. I think...

Thanks folks.

[Gregg Kuljian]

It still hangs when Dimension/Style is performed without opening a drawing. Open an existing drawing, and everything works fine.


Edit- Nope. It hangs whenever it feels like it. I don't see any rhyme nor reason to it, except that it's doing it less often with the reg hack. I think my registry hack isn't correct or complete. Or something. God, it feels like 1990 and I'm trying to figure out one of those early Adobe programs on an IBM 286. Oh, the good old days. Actually, this is far easier. We have Google now.

[Gregg Kuljian]

All of these need to be right clicked in the registry, and "permissions" needs to be set to allow for the user who wants to use Autocad to be added to the list in the boxes that open.

Registry
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HKCR\CLSID\{8E75D913-3D21-11d2-85C4-0800 09A0C626} - Full Control to User
HKCR\CLSID\{83836783-4E7A-11D3-8300-0060B0EF5B11} - Full Control to User
HKCR\AutoCAD.Drawing.15 - Full Control to User HKCU\AutoCAD.Drawing - Full Control to User HKLM\SOFTWARE\Autodesk - Full Control to User