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millerrk
6th Dec 2011, 04:25 pm
I am pretty much stuck at the first BM and POB. I enter the information supplied and it draws a line to approx. 8 o'clock, not where it should go. I have checked my directions and they are set to East. My ucs is set to world. What am I missing?
Please help.

Thank you.

ReMark
6th Dec 2011, 04:39 pm
What do you have for the X/Y coordinates of your benchmark?

millerrk
6th Dec 2011, 05:02 pm
1421334.93,783207.62 is my BM, my first point after is @113.66<N5D27'23"W

ReMark
6th Dec 2011, 05:20 pm
Is that what the book says or what you actually have? If your benchmark is located correctly then you should be OK.

millerrk
6th Dec 2011, 05:24 pm
Those are the coordinates provided by the book, and that I installed. And upon viewing it seems that my BM is in the right location, but I cannot figure out why my first line heads to the South West quadrant.

ReMark
6th Dec 2011, 05:25 pm
What is the distance and bearing for your first line? I don't have the PDF in front of me.

millerrk
6th Dec 2011, 05:29 pm
@113.66<n5d27'23"w

ReMark
6th Dec 2011, 05:34 pm
@113.66<N5D27'23"W

OK...that works for me. You are on the right track. Why does it work? Because north is at the 12 o'clock position (west is at 9 o'clock) and you turn the angle counterclockwise. Thus you are almost 5.5 degrees to the west. Got it?

millerrk
6th Dec 2011, 05:39 pm
ok, I understand all of that. I can actually visualize the compass layout of the project. What I am having problems with is that when I input the information my program draws a line to the SW of my BM where as it should be NNW of my BM. I have looked at the units setup and it is set as East is my base angle, making North up on my project. but my line goes the wrong direction. And that is what is confusing me, why is my line going left and down when it should be going up and left.

ReMark
6th Dec 2011, 05:46 pm
I'd double check that if I were you. I'd also double check the input at the command line. I have access to a copy of the drawing you are working on and I just did a test by drawing the line you provided the distance and bearing for and it goes in the correct direction NW (not SW).

Did you also check the LIMITS of your drawing? You didn't put in any negative numbers for the upper right hand corner did you?

I've got to check on something in the field. I'll be back.

millerrk
6th Dec 2011, 06:02 pm
I have retried it numerous times, double checking the info I input. and it seems to want to keep drawing a line almost to my 0,0 coordinate. does this make sense?

millerrk
6th Dec 2011, 06:13 pm
my limits are set as 0,0 and 10000000,10000000

ReMark
6th Dec 2011, 06:28 pm
Try working with this as your basis. The only time I'll do this. Saved in 2007 file format.

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millerrk
6th Dec 2011, 06:38 pm
Thank you. I opened that file and then input the next coordinates and they go the way they are supposed to. Thank you. But any idea why my start would not do that?

ReMark
6th Dec 2011, 06:41 pm
I have one but it is only a vague idea so I'll keep it to myself. Post a copy of your drawing. When I have a moment I'll take a look at it.

millerrk
6th Dec 2011, 06:55 pm
here is where it is at.

ReMark
6th Dec 2011, 06:58 pm
That's real nice of you but how did you expect me to troubleshoot your drawing (DWG) using a PDF file in AutoCAD? I'm no magician.

millerrk
6th Dec 2011, 07:01 pm
sorry, brain fart.

ReMark
6th Dec 2011, 07:12 pm
Just as I thought. You did draw the line but you didn't notice it. I found it on layer "Border" (color: yellow) and it was drawn in the correct direction and at the proper distance. I had to freeze the lines on layer "0" to see it.

Maybe you were zoomed too far out to notice.

Oh well, you had it right there in front of your nose all this time. You shouldn't have doubted yourself but you also should have taken a closer look. Enough said. Get back to work. You have some lost time to make up.

millerrk
6th Dec 2011, 07:18 pm
Thank you sir.

ReMark
6th Dec 2011, 07:22 pm
Thank you sir.
You can drop the "sir". We ain't in the Navy. LOL

You're entirely welcomed.

One piece of advice: kill the grid (F7). You don't need it.

millerrk
8th Dec 2011, 01:36 pm
ok, maybe I haven't had enough sleep, or I am over thinking this. But, I am rather confused on the way they have this worded " All roadways in the subdivision have sidewalks that are 6 feet wide.' I get that, " There is a 1 foot buffer between the ROW and the beginning of the sidewalk" I get that, "and there is a 3 foot parking strip between the sidewalk and curb." does that mean that it goes ROW, in 1 foot, then 6 foot sidewalk, then 3 foot parking strip then the curb? or am I way off base?

ReMark
8th Dec 2011, 01:47 pm
You are correct. The road itself will end up being 30 feet wide. Add in the 10 feet on either side for the sidewalk, parking strip and curb and that gives you a ROW width of 50 feet.