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archmill
12th Jun 2006, 04:58 pm
Good Morning... first of all im a newbie and not sure if this the right place to post this so if i am please direct me to the correct place.

Problem:

I need to cut a template for an arched door frame, our CNC router reads DXFs. I draft the arched door using the Ellipse Command. But when I trim off half of the Ellipse and offset it turns the offset Ellipse into a spline. This is no problem except when we save the drawing as a DXF it turns the offset ellipse that is now a spline into almost 1000 segments which can crash our CNC computer. We would also like to draw horizontal lines from the two half ellipses then create a polyline so that the CNC machine only has to recognize one entity instead of the thousands of points created by the spline. Is there a way to keep the offset Ellipse to fewer points without using the pellipse variable and distorting the ellipse? Or is there a way to create a polyline out of an half of an ellipse that the offset ellipse with two connecting lines?



Note:

We need to keep the ellipses concentric so they must be offset rather than two different ellipses with different axis lengths.

rkmcswain
12th Jun 2006, 06:41 pm
I draft the arched door using the Ellipse Command. But when I trim off half of the Ellipse and offset it turns the offset Ellipse into a spline.

When I trim an ELLIPSE, it is still an ELLIPSE entity, just with a start and end angle now.



ELLIPSE Layer: "0"
Space: Model space
LineWeight: 0.000"
Handle = 65c
Length: 61.1499
Center: X = 46.3892 , Y = 69.8438 , Z = 0.0000
Major Axis: X = -28.7456 , Y = 0.0000 , Z = 0.0000
Minor Axis: X = 0.0000 , Y = -11.0014 , Z = 0.0000
Start Point: X = 74.5916 , Y = 71.9725 , Z = 0.0000
End Point: X = 18.1868 , Y = 71.9725 , Z = 0.0000
Start Angle: 184
End Angle: 356
Radius Ratio: 0.3827

LSR
12th Jun 2006, 07:40 pm
Change the variable of ellipse.
Set PELLIPSE to 1 will draw a polyline representation of ellipse.
The default is 0 which draw a true ellipse.

archmill
12th Jun 2006, 07:51 pm
Change the variable of ellipse.
Set PELLIPSE to 1 will draw a polyline representation of ellipse.
The default is 0 which draw a true ellipse.

its not a true ellipse when i use PELLISPE, because when i use the variable 1 and i offset the ellipse it is different with the variable 0 and it makes me wonder why theyre different.

thanks though

LSR
12th Jun 2006, 07:55 pm
BTW, how accurate the tolerance you want in your door arched anyway?
As long as the short and long axes are correct and your elliptical arcs are
(slightly) different.

CarlB
12th Jun 2006, 07:56 pm
Not sure what you're describing with "connecting lines".

The main problem sounds to be how your program converts splines to a multi-segment polyline(?). You can prevent that by converting splines yourself to a polyline with more manageable number of segments.

The command "FLATTEN" (Express Tools) can usually convert splines to polylines. Another option is:

"SPL2PL.VLX Converts a selection set of splines to polylines inside the drawing. No more hoops with DXF files in R12 format."

http://www.dotsoft.com/freestuff.htm

Ako
12th Jun 2006, 09:55 pm
Have you tried copying instead of offsetting?

Dave

archmill
13th Jun 2006, 05:14 pm
Not sure what you're describing with "connecting lines".

The main problem sounds to be how your program converts splines to a multi-segment polyline(?). You can prevent that by converting splines yourself to a polyline with more manageable number of segments.

The command "FLATTEN" (Express Tools) can usually convert splines to polylines. Another option is:

"SPL2PL.VLX Converts a selection set of splines to polylines inside the drawing. No more hoops with DXF files in R12 format."

http://www.dotsoft.com/freestuff.htm

thanks spline to polyline worked well and minimized the work although it still creates a bunch of points for the weeke. do you know any tools that can minimize the number of points but still maintains the smoothness of the arched?