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    The privacy standpoint is a bit moot if you consider that we all have the internet, probably pay bills or buy things online, and the biggest one of all - the smart phone. The smart phone traces everything about us. If we allow Google or Apple to have access to our very personal daily travels, purchases, personal conversations and texts and emails, then our company's projects on the cloud shouldn't be much at all to worry about.

    Devil's advocate side of things, anyways.

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    True but sometimes the data/projects we work on belong to a 3rd party. For example: If you sign a contract to due design work for Krispy Kreme, you can believe that ALL ownership falls back to them. A firm can either agree to this or not get the job. Simple as that. Been there, done that.
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    Agreed. Again, devils advocate POV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReMark View Post
    Sure you can get it back. ..


    Probably the easy part is to stop any subscription,.. but are sure you will be able to get all your (online shared) data back the right way at the right time?
    The real strength of this business model runs on two pilars: flexible licences & ACCESS TO DATA.
    Modelling is done with two hands, 2d & 3d. Let it work together..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReMark View Post
    It all depends are who you work for and what you do. Heck, we have a recent addition to this forum who claims to be using release 14 which if I recall correctly came out in 1997. That's twenty years of not spending one more dime than he had to. Certainly must stick in AutoDesk's craw. LOL
    Wow! That's crazy. I can see some old timer doing that. No offense to anyone out there. I grew up in the country, old timer is referred to as, umm, sort of messing around I guess you could say. Oh! Meant as playful banter. I wonder if he goes by the phrase, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I know my boss if def. one guy that still wishes he had ACAD 2007 instead of the 2017 C3D package we have now. I can see where it would be great to keep software, but the way that things are progressing, do you think that they will always allow for some type of compatibility for old and new software. I guess they will always have converters to allow for this. So many different paths this could go down

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    The "if it ain't broke don't fix it" is definitely wise words. However, there's a difference in "fixing it" and "improving it".

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzframpton View Post
    The "if it ain't broke don't fix it" is definitely wise words. However, there's a difference in "fixing it" and "improving it".

    -TZ
    Touche' Tannar lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzframpton View Post
    The "if it ain't broke don't fix it" is definitely wise words. However, there's a difference in "fixing it" and "improving it".

    -TZ
    But, in my experience, they seldom have improved, just add more features, many only utilized by a select demographic (and usually a narrow one) and at the expense of leaving many complaints/bugs unresolved, some that I know of go back to R14.

    I must say in looking over AutoCAD 2017, they do appear to be adding more useful functions, but yet again, I see the same old glitches unaddressed.

    I may try to switch where I work, or least my seat to BricsCAD, Solidworks or another alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLW210 View Post
    I may try to switch where I work, or least my seat to BricsCAD, Solidworks or another alternative.
    If I were in a position (like manufacturing) to pick up SolidWorks I definitely would. I have seen some of your older 3D work and it's very good. Solidworks should come easy for you.

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    I have 2010 Solidworks at home, haven't loaded it up in a while, though.
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