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    Quote Originally Posted by Aftertouch View Post
    I know some colleagues that did this in the past at there previous empolyer.
    The biggest challenge is to explain what you want, and its always a suprise what youll get back.
    With very very very good communication, and some work experience with one and the same person, then it might be a solution.

    Personaly, i would never use external 'people'. Quality over Quantity.
    As you said, it will likely come down to communication and it is going to be chinese whispers also. Apparently the process is we send stuff to their outsourcing project manager in the low cost centre, they then pass the instructions on to someone in their CAD farm/team, then it gets passed back to the project manager for checking in theory. Then it gets sent back to us to review. We then review it and send markups back and the process repeats.

    Quote Originally Posted by tzframpton View Post
    My last company did this, and I know another business owner that went this route.
    Did it work out for them and was it worth it do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReMark View Post
    I'd rather hire a couple of interns and call the job "entry level" than send work out of country.
    So would I. By the time we have all the back and forwards with the outsourcing firm I am not sure it is going to end up much cheaper either. (assuming they can do the work just as fast as we can).

    If it takes them longer to do the work than we normally do internally then it might actually cost us more.

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGAL View Post
    I know of one project think petrol and hundreds of dispensers and a face lift, they sent the cad manager to Hong Kong to supervise, whilst a great experience the living costs for him and his family killed his earnings.
    I think I know exactly which one you mean

    I did receive some CAD drawings from them (or one of their their competitors if I've got the wrong company) recently. The plans looked fine in PDF although in the CAD file it turns out every single layer and block name was in chinese characters and the file was an atrocious mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGAL View Post
    they sent the cad manager to Hong Kong to supervise, whilst a great experience the living costs for him and his family killed his earnings.
    I know of a major engineering firm which has done this. They sent some of their staff to a country north of us and they run the local office over there. I can see that working once you train the local guys and given they would be working on your projects all day every day.

    Quote Originally Posted by maratovich View Post
    It all depends on the technical task.
    If the task is written correctly and understandable, then you will get a good result. Otherwise, you will redo it.
    It is of a technical engineering nature and every project is different...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organic View Post
    Did it work out for them and was it worth it do you know?
    As is everything in life, there are no ultimate solutions, only trade-offs. These two scenarios did produce an end product that met certain expectations, but it did come with trade-offs. Mainly, communication barriers, lack of detailed industry knowledge, time zone differences, and not having someone in-office always has its issues.

    But, ultimately, both scenarios got the job done. Both times were a first, so I think (as it was already mentioned) if you go with a crew, stick with them for a while and the loose ends will tighten up pretty quickly. These people in these countries are very talented at CAD software, no doubt. That's the first step. The rest is you managing them.

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    One of my clients outsources a lot of their work. They have to go back and forth, back and forth, until they get something that is acceptable, then they send it to me to fix problems and make sure everything works and adheres to company standards. I have spoken with the people in the office and they don't like dealing with the communication issues, time zone issues and all the back and forth, but I guess at the end of the day, it's still cheaper for them to get the work done this way than for them to sit there and work on it themselves.
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