AutoCAD MEP vs Revit MEP

[Tom Schrader]

Well it seems that I have touched a nerve there MR StykfacE.....
I did not denegrate your opinion I MEARLY stated my opininon, I did not resort to ad hominem attacks on you or your opinion.
Somebody asked about the different ways that MEP could be done. I simply stated my OPINION on the matter and you come on all high and mighty supporting the Revit platform.
Never once answering any of my points...
I NEVER once put down your experience nor did I make light of all the posts you have on here.
You are the one doing both of these things... So maybe you should take a look in the mirror This whole post was a person asking for opinions.. I gave mine and then for some reason you thought it best to "Correct" my opinion.. The last I checked we still have freedom of speach.
I did not impune yours or anyone else's experience. If you want to talk about experience come back and talk to me when you have learned several other cad packages by somebody other than Softdesk. Maybe come back a talk experience when you have double digit years of experience. some how I dont think it will make a difference to you but just as as a side note you might want to refrain from talking about someones experience when you do not know what it is... (IE that is basically a working definition of ad hominem)

[StykFacE]

The last I checked we still have freedom of speech.

You do not have free speech on CADTutor.net. This is a privately owned message board with moderators that will edit things as needed. I've been censored a good handful of times myself. Even if you still think you have free speech on this forum, good luck enforcing one of your posts that's been edited.

My **NOTE** regarding my experience was not intended to be directed at you - it was for the moderators of this forum (whom all know me very well) and for all others who stumble upon this thread so they understand that your opinion just may be very misleading (which it is). Since you are new here, you don't realize how tight this community is and we all here do not like any possibility of false information being thrown around loosely here. Revit is one of the biggest platforms to be misled due to lack of true knowledge about the intent of the program along with the capabilities, and since most people compare Revit MEP to AutoCAD MEP it can be a very grave mistake as the two applications are nothing alike, even though they are marketed to the same trade (the MEP engineering/construction market).

Don't be angry because I have experienced differences than your own. The viewers of this forum board are the ones who matter most, not your personal feelings, which is why I posted my response.

[Tom Schrader]

Thanks for adressing and or solving my problems with Revit by waving your magic wand... I brought up many valid points about Revit and yet you continue to stand on your high horse saying I am spreading misconceptions about the "Great Revit " platform...
However I can not stand your arogance to not even admit that I have a few valid points about Revit. you stand on high delivering "The Mesage" that Revit is great and has no flaws.
Well because of your over riding ignorance I will no longer participate in this menu board I will take my 20 years of experience in the MEP trades and 5 years actually operating one of the most advanced MEP environments and leave this forum. It is people like you that makes me wonder where is the common courtsey in this society. I did not resort to adhom attacks on your views nor did I denegrate your lack of experience. I simply stated my views about the CURRENT state of the Revit MEP package. NOT ONCE in any of your responses did you actually offer any POSITIVE comments about the lack of tools availible in the Revit software. Nowhere in my posts did I say that the corrct items could not be created in Revit. I mearly pointed out the fact that Revit does not come out of the box with them.
As a final point it TSI/MAP software is so horible then why did Softdesk buy the company????
Good Bye.

[CADTutor]

You do not have free speech on CADTutor.net.

This statement is incorrect. Any member of this forum has the right to express their opinion, irrespective of the opinions of others. None of the posts in this thread has been edited or altered in any way. We do reserve the right to remove or edit posts that may cause offence (bad language etc.) or those that are intended to cause trouble. Neither is true in this case although I feel the 2 strongly held views were expressed with a lack of respect for the other interlocutors experience.

As a general point, even if a forum member disagrees, with a stated opinion, they cannot assume that it is formed out of ignorance. In this case, the alternate opinion was borne out of a different experience in a different context.

On another day, I guess you two could learn a lot from one another.

...I can not stand your arogance to not even admit that I have a few valid points about Revit. you stand on high delivering "The Mesage" that Revit is great and has no flaws.

This is a misrepresentation of the views expressed. Having read the thread, it is clear what the poster meant, even if those views were expressed rather strongly.

Although this thread is not edited, I am closing it as further discussion is likely to be unproductive.