Anyone Still have Autocad R12 Windows?

[MaxwellEdison]

Thanks for the reply "atari". If and when you get a chance to dig up that cd I'd be interested in a few files for AutoCad R12 for Windows. Kinda wierd that the R13 cd-rom would have R12 on it....

If you've ever used R13 you'll realize its more of an apology.

[StykFacE]

If you've ever used R13 you'll realize its more of an apology.

That statement, my friend, is golden. I will print this out and frame it. hahaha

[Raggi_Thor]

After I moved to a new office in the beginning of November (200 I now have come to the R12 CD, student version from Autodesk Press

I doubt it will run on Vista...

[ReMark]

Be really careful if you do get a "student version" to run. When you plot, it will generate a "stamp" indicating the drawing was made with an educational version of AutoCAD. Using content from such a drawing (ex. - a block) in another drawing made with a commercial (for profit) version of AutoCAD will "infect" the drawing with the same "stamp". Removing the stamp from one drawing is a pain. Removing it from multiple drawings is a really BIG pain.

[Raggi_Thor]

I didn't know they had that in R12? 1996..
IF it's possible to run this version it's just for fun anyway.
The bonus cd may contain some useful lisp though

[TAZIN]

Other than the "Stamp" -educational version- is the Student version the same as the commercial version?

[ReMark]

Yes, the student version is the same as the commercial version. All the same bells and whistles.

[Jack_O'neill]

If you've ever used R13 you'll realize its more of an apology.

Autodesk needed to apologize to everyone for R13.

Back in those days, I was somewhat younger and less...experienced...with Autodesk's products. I was also the cad admin at the company I was working for at the time. We were using R12 Windows and all the hype for 13's new features was bait I could not resist. I'd had a lot of success with the upgrades from releases 10 and 11 so I went in, sold the management on the upgrade and we ordered it before it was even released.

I began to began to wonder what was going on when I got the first patch (on CD) before I even got the program CDs, and when the second patch was included in the box with the program I was really concerned. Fortunately, I had presence of mind to only install a couple of machines to test. Even after installing both of the patches, the program was an absolute mess. You could hit "ok" in a dialog box, it would disappear and then reappear in an endless loop. You could draw a 3" long line, pop a dimension on it and it would tell you that it was 2 7/8" or some such. Draw a square that was 2 x 2, the dimensions would tell you that it was anything but 2 x 2. It was absolutely horrible. Over the course of the next few months, I uninstalled everyone but me and put R12 back on. I got 3 more patches on CD and a couple via download (which in those days was almost as painful as fooling with floppies) and eventually got it working. Once I had an install that functioned correctly, I passed that out to everyone and then absolutely refused to do any other patches. When my dealer called pushing 14, I said "Oh hell no!" He asked why, and I said there was no way I was going through that again. As far as I was concerned, we had bought our last upgrade and that I was even looking for a different product.

He jumped in his car the next day, drove the 200+ miles to my office, and brought me a copy of R14 and even offered to install it for me. Said i could use it for 30 days, and if I didn't like it or had any problems with it, he'd pay for the first copy of what ever I wanted to switch to. Fortunately for him, it was as good as promised so we bought 6 seats just to get 13 off the machines.

On a different subject, how many of you remember the Windows "extension" for R11?

[ReMark]

The extension for R11? I think so. Wasn't that "c2" or am I thinking of something else? I'm pretty sure I've got it back at the office.

[Raggi_Thor]

My favorite was R11 on Ultrix
I also remember R13C4d etc, I was working for a reseller at that time, quite embarassing. We also had the problems with Norwegian characters (æøåÆØÅ) turning into "?" in millions of drawings...