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    thanks a bunch car5858

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    hey car5858 hows it going. hey couple of questions. on the south elevation part do you show the key ways in the footings or will that be later in a detail. also what does it mean when it says the concrete angles away from the pillars at the 45 degree angle for a vertical and horizontal distance of 6". so the corners are different but the same height but the concrete angles going inward on the pillars like a conehead shape. i guess thats all for now. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mivshekwyo View Post
    hey car5858 hows it going. hey couple of questions. on the south elevation part do you show the key ways in the footings or will that be later in a detail.
    Yes, Page 11 paragraph 2 in the instructions line 1. The footing size is listed on page 8 bullet 5 "16 x 32 x 32. The keyway is an end view in this drawing, inset into the footing.

    also what does it mean when it says the concrete angles away from the pillars at the 45 degree angle for a vertical and horizontal distance of 6". so the corners are different but the same height but the concrete angles going inward on the pillars like a conehead shape. i guess thats all for now. thanks.
    I think that you have misread the instructions. The pillers are 16" wide (page 11 bullet 2) and 4' high measured from the footing. At the 4' height the concrete angles at 45 degree's for a vertical and horziontal distance of 6". This gives the total height of the piller 4'-6". Now add 12" (6" each side) to the width of the piller. 28" right?
    Draw a center construction line for the piller. Next draw the footing centered on the center line. There should be 4'-6" of the center line above the footing. Use the offset command to offset the centerline 8" to each side. Use the line command to draw a line across the top of the piller. Start the line command again with the end point snap and marker enabled. Turn ortho on and hover over the top west side corner of the piller. Move the mouse pointer to the left slightly, with the Dynamic input on type 6" press enter draw the end point at the top left corner of the piller.

    Use the offset command and offset the line you just drew 6" toward the footing. This gives you the location for the 45 degree angle. Using the line command draw a line from the western most end point to the offset line at the intersection of the piller. This gives you the correct line and angle. Trim the piller vertical line to the 45 degree line. Erase the 6" horizontal offset line at the base of the 45 degree angle. Use the join command to join the line's at the top of the piller.
    Now do the same thing for the other side (east side) of the piller.

    There are many different way's to draw this and obtain the same results. One is using the offset line command, others include the rotate cmd trim and extend cmd ect. ect.

    Hope this helps.

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    yes this helps and seem to be working. like you say with autocad theres many ways to do the same thing. ok on the next part section a plate 3 you basically use the previous drawing but like take off the siding and the door and show a little more detail of the roof and whats between the first and second floor. then on section b plate 4 use the sections a drawing. what does it mean for sure when it says you'll see the cross section of the channel beam instead of the flat side of the beam. how i'am not to much of a bother i sure do appreciate all this help this is kinda kicken my butt but it slowly getting better. thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mivshekwyo View Post
    yes this helps and seem to be working. like you say with autocad theres many ways to do the same thing. ok on the next part section a plate 3 you basically use the previous drawing but like take off the siding and the door and show a little more detail of the roof and whats between the first and second floor.
    Yes, this is in the instructions on page 14

    then on section b plate 4 use the sections a drawing. what does it mean for sure when it says you'll see the cross section of the channel beam instead of the flat side of the beam.
    Think of the end view of the beam, it looks like an "I". The first drawing has this symbol representing the columns. The girders are the same shape but you will be looking at the "I"< right side and it's end. You will have to rotate the girder in your mind to view it from a different angle. It may help you to draw a sketch with all of the different views of the girder. In this drawing you are looking west. This is where the section lines help you to indicate the direction of the view.

    Ask yourself this, If I were standing on the east end of the building looking west what details would I see?

    You will have to do the same for the channel supporting the pored in place concrete floor.


    how i'am not to much of a bother i sure do appreciate all this help this is kinda kicken my butt but it slowly getting better. thanks again.
    It's not a bother, understanding the instruction's is tough, and it dosen't get easier as you progress to the next set of drawings. Once this first drawing project is completed you will have more confidance in what you have learned and will be able to work faster.

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    ok thanks for the info starting to make more sense. i will keep working and talk to ya later when i get this stuff done. thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mivshekwyo View Post
    ok thanks for the info starting to make more sense. i will keep working and talk to ya later when i get this stuff done. thanks again.
    Take your time with the drawing and reread the instruction's as often as needed. When I did this drawing project it took me a month.

    After I understood the instructions it went alot better. Don't forget to triple check your work line by line with the instructions.

    Good Luck

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    I made 100 on mine.

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    hello car5858' i,m working on a project called the olsen villige from penn foster school' i'm stuck and in need of help can you help me ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spen1973 View Post
    hello car5858' i,m working on a project called the olsen villige from penn foster school' i'm stuck and in need of help can you help me ?
    What are you having problems with?

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    I am having issues with completing both transition pieces in the HVAC Project. I have attached the project document. I was able to complete Plate 1, but I am stuck on both Plate's 2 & 3. I was able to get both the top & front views of each, but am stuck attempting to create the development patterns & finding true length of the lines. They attempt to explain how to do this in the material, but it is too vague and does not help. I tried to google search the topic and so far can't find decent instructions for finding true length. Does anyone have an easy way to describe finding true length?

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