File size: Line or polyline

[andq]

I just did similar thing before reading it and my individual plines file was bigger then the one with lines

[Jack_O'neill]

Text for the polyline square:
Command: list
Select objects: Specify opposite corner: 1 found
Select objects:
LWPOLYLINE Layer: "text"
Space: Model space
Handle = 339
Closed
Constant width 0.0000
area 4.0000
perimeter 8.0000
at point X= 0.0000 Y= 45.0000 Z= 0.0000
at point X= 0.0000 Y= 47.0000 Z= 0.0000
at point X= 2.0000 Y= 47.0000 Z= 0.0000
at point X= 2.0000 Y= 45.0000 Z= 0.0000

Text for the square made from lines:
Command: list
Select objects: Specify opposite corner: 4 found
Select objects:
LINE Layer: "text"
Space: Model space
Handle = 7e6
from point, X= 2.0000 Y= 45.0000 Z= 0.0000
to point, X= 0.0000 Y= 45.0000 Z= 0.0000
Length = 2.0000, Angle in XY Plane = 180
Delta X = -2.0000, Delta Y = 0.0000, Delta Z = 0.0000
LINE Layer: "text"
Space: Model space
Handle = 7e5
from point, X= 2.0000 Y= 47.0000 Z= 0.0000
to point, X= 2.0000 Y= 45.0000 Z= 0.0000
Length = 2.0000, Angle in XY Plane = 270
Delta X = 0.0000, Delta Y = -2.0000, Delta Z = 0.0000
LINE Layer: "text"
Space: Model space
Handle = 7e4
from point, X= 0.0000 Y= 47.0000 Z= 0.0000
Press ENTER to continue:
to point, X= 2.0000 Y= 47.0000 Z= 0.0000
Length = 2.0000, Angle in XY Plane = 0
Delta X = 2.0000, Delta Y = 0.0000, Delta Z = 0.0000
LINE Layer: "text"
Space: Model space
Handle = 7e3
from point, X= 0.0000 Y= 45.0000 Z= 0.0000
to point, X= 0.0000 Y= 47.0000 Z= 0.0000
Length = 2.0000, Angle in XY Plane = 90
Delta X = 0.0000, Delta Y = 2.0000, Delta Z = 0.0000

If any of you have been following the thread about how to draw ortho and iso projections (of a pair of Visegrips), there's a quick and crude drawing I did in that thread last night that has a mixture of lines, plines circles and elipses...it has 81 objects and is 82k, drawn on the same template as the squares.

[designerstuart]

yes, arrays of 100 objects or more show files with lines to be many times larger than polyline counterparts - rather than the 5% or so differences shown above
in large files it seems it makes a big difference. although this is only where one polyline can replace several line segments. if the lines are converted to polylines without jouning segements, files remain the same size.

[andq]

If we were back in the day of being excited about having 100mb hard drives, I might understand this thread, but I just picked up a new 3TB drive for my server for right on 100 bones. Space is not an issue anymore. I had to fuss at the IT guy when I started where I am now to remove the 10mb limit on email attachments.

Can you imagine, we have strict file size limits for courseworks in our educational institution...

[Jack_O'neill]

If we were back in the day of being excited about having 100mb hard drives, I might understand this thread, but I just picked up a new 3TB drive for my server for right on 100 bones. Space is not an issue anymore. I had to fuss at the IT guy when I started where I am now to remove the 10mb limit on email attachments.

This is true. When I first started drawing, the company I worked for had a server that they had just installed a 120 Megabyte hard drive, and a Bernoulli box with dual cassettes. For the youngsters in the crowd, a Bernoulli drive was a shared floppy disc drive that used cartridges that looked like overgrown 3 1/2" discs. The would store 10mb each and back then cost about
$100 each. We had about 20 of those that stored all of our standard details and parts...the stuff you had to get approval from a deity to change. If you created a new standard detail, before it was committed to the Bernoulli it was more closely inspected than the paper drawings ever thought about being to make sure you'd followed all the guidelines about reducing file size as much as possible. These days, it's not unusual to work on single drawings that wouldn't fit on those devices.

[SLW210]

If we were back in the day of being excited about having 100mb hard drives, I might understand this thread, but I just picked up a new 3TB drive for my server for right on 100 bones. Space is not an issue anymore. I had to fuss at the IT guy when I started where I am now to remove the 10mb limit on email attachments.

I agree in many ways with that statement. I would like to know where you got 3T for $100 though, best I found has been 1T for $70, though I haven't been looking hard.

Your 10MB limit may be gone, but what about those you are sending files to? I am still in that stage here, 10MB limit and we also have .zip/.rar blocked in our email. I do some work with aerial photos and 10 MB isn't much.

True, that space is not an issue and storage space is cheap, RAM is even cheaper, but it is not that simple to IT and Accounting. I wish it was.

Some people just need smaller files, that is why I showed the difference blocks make in file size. Me I don't care, I have no problem telling the company president "I can not send you these aerials because they are to large for our email, here is the network path to them".

I am new here, I figure I will start shaking ITs tree in a few months and will see what kind of nuts we get.

[Jack_O'neill]

I agree in many ways with that statement. I would like to know where you got 3T for $100 though, best I found has been 1T for $70, though I haven't been looking hard.

Your 10MB limit may be gone, but what about those you are sending files to? I am still in that stage here, 10MB limit and we also have .zip/.rar blocked in our email. I do some work with aerial photos and 10 MB isn't much.

True, that space is not an issue and storage space is cheap, RAM is even cheaper, but it is not that simple to IT and Accounting. I wish it was.

Some people just need smaller files, that is why I showed the difference blocks make in file size. Me I don't care, I have no problem telling the company president "I can not send you these aerials because they are to large for our email, here is the network path to them".

I am new here, I figure I will start shaking ITs tree in a few months and will see what kind of nuts we get.

Typical conversation with IT department:

You: I have an idea. Why not add a 2 TB drive to our system. Here's one I found for $70!
IT Dept: No..sorry. There are compatibility issues with that device. Translation: Who are you to make suggestions to me about IT?
You: How can that be? It's says it's certified for use with our operating system. Have you ever even seen this one?
IT Dept: There's more to it than that. You don't understand, and it is too complicated to explain. Translation: Go away, my coffee is getting cold and you are interrupting my Call of Duty session.
You: Ok, but its clear we need more storage. If you can send me the specs for our system, I'd be happy to find one for you.
IT Dept: This is not something you can get at a department store or mail order house. It has to be tested and approved to rigourous standards and there's no budget for capital improvements this quarter anyway, so don't waste your time. Translation: Now I am PO'd...my COD session just expired while I'm talking to some fool who thinks he knows computers -fires off nasty email to your boss-

Later that same day:

Your boss: If you don't have enough work to do, I can certainly find you more. You worry about your job, and let IT take care of the computer stuff. You're here to use them, not improve them....got it?

You: Yes, of course. Sorry sir. Won't happen again. Translation: It will be a cold day in @#$% when I offer another suggestion. From now on they get exactly what they ask for &*&^$#@ no good deed goes unpunished....(muttering and cursing continues for another hour minimum).

Been there done that. The bigger the corporation, the worse it gets too.