+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 6 of 6
  1. #1
    Full Member idllc's Avatar
    Computer Details
    idllc's Computer Details
    Operating System:
    WINDOWS 7 Ultimate
    Computer:
    DELL
    CPU:
    i7
    RAM:
    12G DDR3
    Monitor:
    Dual 28"
    Using
    MEP 2012
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    Posts
    70

    Default Shop Drawings in REVIT???

    Registered forum members do not see this ad.

    I use AMEP, have for about 5 years. I own a "Crossgrade" licensce, thus I have REVIT MEP, but only use it for exporting from REVIT to AMEP. I also use a few third party modules in AMEP for Sheet Metal and Piping. These third party items really allow me to get down to the "nuts & bolts" for shops. Most folks who do shop drawings for the contracting world will know what I mean.
    The big question I have is this:
    We are starting to see more Engineer's Specs call for the shops to be "completed" in a REVIT format. Has anyone else encountered this? Not that I cant draw in REVIT, it is just not up to par with the abbilities for the "nuts & bolts" aspect of things. Also, none of my third party stuff has REVIT capablities....
    I feel that the consulatants in my area are doing this efforts to "Sale" their REVIT files to the contractor or myself. I had a job a while back the engineer wanted 25,000$ for the REVIT files!!! All I wanted was a 3D export to load in NAVIS. Needless to say we passed on purchasing the REVIT files and finished the job just fine with AMEP.
    Any thoughts on this?
    Thanks!
    "Get with it, get Integrated" Integrated Design LLC Tulsa, Oklahoma

  2. #2
    Full Member idllc's Avatar
    Computer Details
    idllc's Computer Details
    Operating System:
    WINDOWS 7 Ultimate
    Computer:
    DELL
    CPU:
    i7
    RAM:
    12G DDR3
    Monitor:
    Dual 28"
    Using
    MEP 2012
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    Posts
    70

    Default

    I have thoght of just completing the shop as normal with AMEP and then simply "Importing" the CAD file into REVIT. In the end it would be in a .rvt format. ?
    "Get with it, get Integrated" Integrated Design LLC Tulsa, Oklahoma

  3. #3
    Luminous Being tzframpton's Avatar
    Computer Details
    tzframpton's Computer Details
    Computer:
    Custom built rig
    Discipline
    Multi-disciplinary
    tzframpton's Discipline Details
    Occupation
    BIM Specialist
    Discipline
    Multi-disciplinary
    Details
    Facilities engineering, involving mechanical piping, mechanical HVAC, electrical and structural engineering.
    Using
    Revit 2015
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Dallas, TX - USA
    Posts
    7,729

    Default

    AMEP is far superior than RMEP for true shop drawings from a BIM standpoint. I have encountered this as well and although Revit is for engineering, that is your ticket out. You are creating shop drawing as builts as a mechanical subcontractor, NOT an engineering firm. Unless, of course, you also do in-house engineering for the job.

    Best thing to do is ask if they're truly wanting an RVT file, or are they just using the term Revit loosely and really mean 3D BIM file. If they truly want an RVT file, simply do an IFC Export from AMEP, open RMEP, import the IFC file and Save. That way they're getting an RVT file format with intelligent information inside. It's a way around it in my opinion.
    Tannar Z. Frampton | Hill & Wilkinson

  4. #4
    Full Member idllc's Avatar
    Computer Details
    idllc's Computer Details
    Operating System:
    WINDOWS 7 Ultimate
    Computer:
    DELL
    CPU:
    i7
    RAM:
    12G DDR3
    Monitor:
    Dual 28"
    Using
    MEP 2012
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    Posts
    70

    Default

    Thanks! I was kind of thinking the same thing.... I too think AMEP is FAR better than RMEP, for doing shops, but getting others feedback is always great.
    Thanks!!
    "Get with it, get Integrated" Integrated Design LLC Tulsa, Oklahoma

  5. #5
    Forum Deity Organic's Avatar
    Discipline
    Civil
    Using
    AutoCAD 2015
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    2,197

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by idllc View Post
    I had a job a while back the engineer wanted 25,000$ for the REVIT files!!! Any thoughts on this?
    Thanks!
    The client owns the files as they paid for them to be done. Have had this happen before and you just get on the phone to the client and tell them that unless they want to pay X more then they should make sure that the other company also working on the project shares digital data the client paid for.

  6. #6
    Senior Member Lee Roy's Avatar
    Computer Details
    Lee Roy's Computer Details
    Operating System:
    Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
    Computer:
    HP Z400
    CPU:
    Intel Xeon W 3565 @ 3.2GHz
    RAM:
    16GB
    Graphics:
    ATI FirePro V5900
    Primary Storage:
    OCZ Vertex 4 - 256GB - Sata III - SSD
    Secondary Storage:
    Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm
    Monitor:
    Dual - HP Compaq LA2405wg
    Discipline
    Multi-disciplinary
    Lee Roy's Discipline Details
    Occupation
    CAD/BIM Manager
    Discipline
    Multi-disciplinary
    Details
    Architectural, Mechanical, Plumbing, Electrical...JOAT
    Using
    Mechanical 2015
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    432

    Default

    Registered forum members do not see this ad.

    Quote Originally Posted by StykFacE View Post
    AMEP is far superior than RMEP for true shop drawings from a BIM standpoint. I have encountered this as well and although Revit is for engineering, that is your ticket out. You are creating shop drawing as builts as a mechanical subcontractor, NOT an engineering firm. Unless, of course, you also do in-house engineering for the job.
    As much as I love my Revit, I 100% agree. We design/engineer in RMEP but AMEP is still the preferred choice for shop drawings for our fab shop.

Similar Threads

  1. Shop drawings take too long
    By cduke5 in forum AutoCAD General
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 21st Feb 2011, 12:13 pm
  2. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 8th Feb 2011, 05:00 pm
  3. Plotting Plumbing drawings from Revit MEP...?
    By erratic in forum Revit General
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 29th Apr 2010, 01:01 am
  4. 3d to Shop drawings
    By moosehead2 in forum AutoCAD 3D Modelling & Rendering
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 14th Apr 2008, 04:04 pm
  5. Shop Drawings
    By Pineapple in forum AutoCAD 2D Drafting, Object Properties & Interface
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 3rd Apr 2008, 08:58 am

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts