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    Actually when I think of mechanical I tend to equate it more with manufacturing than with HVAC. Thanks.
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    I have to wear all the hats here, so sometimes the lines are fuzzy for drafting.

    I always lump piping in with mechanical, usually when looking for symbols, the valves etc.will be in the Mechanical files, so I guess that's where the association comes in.

    Then you have the confusion created by AutoCAD Mechanical and Inventor, so technically that would be mechanical drafting.

    Here is the US Gubernment definitions.

    Drafting work has many specialties; the most common types of drafters are the following:

    Aeronautical drafters prepare engineering drawings that detail plans and specifications used in the manufacture of aircraft, missiles, and related parts.

    Architectural drafters draw architectural and structural features of buildings for new construction projects. These workers may specialize in a type of building, such as residential or commercial, or in a kind of material used, such as reinforced concrete, masonry, steel, or timber.

    Civil drafters prepare drawings and topographical and relief maps used in major construction or civil engineering projects, such as highways, bridges, pipelines, flood-control projects, and water and sewage systems.

    Electrical drafters prepare wiring and layout diagrams used by workers who erect, install, and repair electrical equipment and wiring in communication centers, power plants, electrical distribution systems, and buildings.

    Electronics drafters draw wiring diagrams, circuit board assembly diagrams, schematics, and layout drawings used in the manufacture, installation, and repair of electronic devices and components.

    Mechanical drafters prepare drawings showing the detail and method of assembly of a wide variety of machinery and mechanical devices, indicating dimensions, fastening methods, and other requirements.

    Process piping or pipeline drafters prepare drawings used in the layout, construction, and operation of oil and gas fields, refineries, chemical plants, and process piping systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_O'neill View Post
    That is a common usage, but mechanical drawing also refers to tool and die and manufacturing and that sort of stuff too.
    Right on Jack, tool 'n die manufacturing. Going to do some *.dxf drawings, machined close tolerance parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tankman View Post
    Right on Jack, tool 'n die manufacturing. Going to do some *.dxf drawings, machined close tolerance parts.
    That's where I got started in CAD. Was working for a company that fabricated copper tubing for the a/c and refrigeration industries. We designed and build all of our own tubing and a number of our own machines. It's amazing some of the things you can to to a piece of copper tubing.
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    Have you checked out that font yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReMark View Post
    Have you checked out that font yet?
    Will check the font (gdt.shx) when I returned to Eastern PA, tonight or tomorrow.

    Visiting a job site in Harrisburg at the time, lousy weather, unlike the past few days. Oh well, ya get what you get.

    **Interesting font but, no cigar. One drafting symbol means "deep", like a T and small v, looks like this.**

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLW210 View Post
    I have to wear all the hats here, so sometimes the lines are fuzzy for drafting.

    I always lump piping in with mechanical, usually when looking for symbols, the valves etc.will be in the Mechanical files, so I guess that's where the association comes in.

    Then you have the confusion created by AutoCAD Mechanical and Inventor, so technically that would be mechanical drafting.

    Here is the US Gubernment definitions.
    The structural part of the architectural drafts person description would be better suited in the civil draftsperson description it seems to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tankman View Post
    Will check the font (gdt.shx) when I returned to Eastern PA, tonight or tomorrow.

    Visiting a job site in Harrisburg at the time, lousy weather, unlike the past few days. Oh well, ya get what you get.

    **Interesting font but, no cigar. One drafting symbol means "deep", like a T and small v, looks like this.**

    Attachment 30555
    I haven't seen anybody use those symbols in years and years. If I were to call that out on something, I'd use a leader with this note:

    DR. 0.070 DIA (#50)~0.200 DP.
    TAP 2-56 UNC -3B~0.172 DP.

    Keep in mind, you might be able to measure the drill depth to 3 decimal places, but its gonna be next to impossible to control the tapped depth that accurately.

    What in the world are you putting those little tiny screws in anyway? I always hated working with those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_O'neill View Post
    I haven't seen anybody use those symbols in years and years. If I were to call that out on something, I'd use a leader with this note:

    DR. 0.070 DIA (#50)~0.200 DP.
    TAP 2-56 UNC -3B~0.172 DP.

    Keep in mind, you might be able to measure the drill depth to 3 decimal places, but its gonna be next to impossible to control the tapped depth that accurately.

    What in the world are you putting those little tiny screws in anyway? I always hated working with those.
    ASME still uses those symbols, I would use those rather than the notes. And if using ASME GD&T that is the only option.
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