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    Unhappy Structural Drafting With Autocad, help with the last 3 plates

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    HELLO AGAIN CAD TUTOR! (you guys are awesome)

    As the title imply i finished the first 4 plates of my project and now im starting the last 3 plates.
    In these last three plates it involves having 3 Detail drawings of certain aspects of the building and drawing them with greater detail. but i ask on what am i drawing exactly. the instructions have information randomly filled out all over the book and that makes no sense at all.

    does anyone have a picture of the last three plates to verify on what should be done? (i have looked through the forums and only found pics of plates 1-4, not 5-7)

    and i ask "what is a size description?"

    heres the booklet that im reading and trying to understand
    Structural booklet.pdf

    also note that as i wait for a reply ill try to draw these free hand on a piece of paper then wasting my time in autocad before i actually get the drawing correct.

    i thank anyone and everyone in advance.

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    Are you talking about plates 5, 6 and 7 (Roof details, Connection details and Foundation details respectively)?

    The instructions are fairly straightforward in what they are asking the student to detail. Basically you are going to draw some details then take portions of them and enlarge them further. These enlarged details will contain more information than could be shown at the smaller scale.

    Re: size descriptions is just what it means. If you are calling out a beam or a column you need to say what size/shape it is. For example: Steel Column W12x152, Exterior Column 22'-5" Lg.

    I would suggest using a "tag" to identify the objects in your drawings then create a table to one side listing in one column the "tag" number and in the second column the size description. A tag is a circle with a number in it and a line pointing to the object. You can find a dynamic block of this type on your tool palette on the Annotation tab.
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    thanks for the quick reply ReMark. (gives virtual cookie, topped with awesomeness)

    i have another question though.

    what exactly is "welded wire fabric" and how do u draw it? it asks me to draw it.

    also for this project its all about Zooming in onto the specified areas to show more objects? that makes it simpler. and have u found any reference pitures? i was seraching but no cigar.....

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    "Welded wire fabric is really steel wire, much like a screen, where all the points of contact where the wires touch each other have been spot welded together."

    Typically this is shown as a dashed line and everywhere there is a gap an "X" is depicted.

    Of course I have drawings of the plates but I want to see what you can come up with first. Give it your best shot. I don't like to be disappointed though. I have full faith and confidence in your ability to do it. Go...read...then do.
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    okay gotcha. ill attempt to do plate 5 with my limited knowledge.

    then ill post it so we can compare notes and/or adjustments as needed.

    thanks for all the help. (after these last 3 plates, I graduate! so whose hiring as of now?)

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    You've basically done some of this already when you drew the other plates.

    Who's hiring? Not sure. Look at some of the job boards or craigslist or try over at Cadalyst magazine (they have job postings).
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    okay i have finished plate 5. i have done what basically the book told me to do.

    Here is plate 5. I finished after 4 hours of work. (slow work, im a bad procrastinator)

    ROOF DETAILS-P5.dwg

    if u see any adjustments that need to be made please tell me. thanks in advance.

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    First question. You have a mixture of text sizes for your callouts, why? I also notice that you didn't use the tag I mentioned (a bubble with a number inside). More professional looking in my opinion.
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    Detail "C" should have two areas circled that reference Details C1 and C2. Both of these details should be of a scale that make them easily readable. The detail to the right of C2 (the one you dimensioned) is so small it is barely readable. Each detail should also have the scale called out as well.

    I would also make use of hatching to distinguish important features like the cap plate for instance. BTW, wouldn't the flashing extend up and over the cap?
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    Excellent deduction Watson. I cant seem to scale it correctly as it changes the length of the dimensions. for example when i scale it up it makes a 1 inch line 4 inches long. is there a way to enlarge it with out affecting the scale?

    and I looked for the bubble and found was the Multileader. i don't know how to activate the bubble in the multileader settings (maybe i missed it?)

    and yes i should do the hatching to distinguish between parts. but i also have to mention that the steel plate for the cap detail is 14" long while the I beam is 13-3/4" so there not much room.

    and regarding more of the flashing, in the book it shows something like flashing , it calls it galvanized metal clap with cleats. (page 30, fig. 21-56) i tried to follow that but as you can see i have failed. (okay maybe a C+ )

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