Getting upper Management to listen ???

[DANIEL]

On second thought, those other applicants are probably 41 reasons some management people don't give our thoughts much thought, huh?

your probably right, I think its why they started letting me do the hiring, thinking back I was probably a shoe in as well with my samples, I just know that back when I first started with this company they kept hiring people that looked and sounded great, once they were all gone they started asking for my input lol. we still have a turn over rate though, of the three I most wanted to keep, one had a heart attack, one had a nervious break down and the other one left to become a highschool teacher .....

and I don't think ya'll are off topic at all.

[Jack_O'neill]

your probably right, I think its why they started letting me do the hiring, thinking back I was probably a shoe in as well with my samples, I just know that back when I first started with this company they kept hiring people that looked and sounded great, once they were all gone they started asking for my input lol. we still have a turn over rate though, of the three I most wanted to keep, one had a heart attack, one had a nervious break down and the other one left to become a highschool teacher .....

and I don't think ya'll are off topic at all.

Funny how things change. My wife is a kindergarten teacher who after 15 years plans not to return next year. Federal interference, paperwork, redtape and b.s. has caused her to finally get her fill and is looking for a new career in daycare management or something. I have a daughter who is an RN, and for similar reasons in the hospitals now teaches nursing at a local technical college. I'm seriously considering the truck driving thing...steady work, lots of demand, low stress. If I can drive a company truck for a few years, I'll be retirement age and can toss it all in. Nothing ever works out like we plan, does it?

[DANIEL]

Funny how things change. My wife is a kindergarten teacher who after 15 years plans not to return next year. Federal interference, paperwork, redtape and b.s. has caused her to finally get her fill and is looking for a new career in daycare management or something. I have a daughter who is an RN, and for similar reasons in the hospitals now teaches nursing at a local technical college. I'm seriously considering the truck driving thing...steady work, lots of demand, low stress. If I can drive a company truck for a few years, I'll be retirement age and can toss it all in. Nothing ever works out like we plan, does it?

I'm not sure I'd continue in this profession beyond my current employer, I'm really at a point where I want to become self employed some how, people laugh when I joke about running a taco truck but it ain't really a joke ........

and no, things usually turn out different than you expect, I went to school for graphic design and computer animation, I do niether lol

[Jack_O'neill]

I'm not sure I'd continue in this profession beyond my current employer, I'm really at a point where I want to become self employed some how, people laugh when I joke about running a taco truck but it ain't really a joke ........

and no, things usually turn out different than you expect, I went to school for graphic design and computer animation, I do niether lol

I have a dear friend that did just that Daniel. Well, not a taco shack, but a sub shop. She was a very successful electronic component salesman. The company we both worked at stressed her out so bad, she chucked it all in and opened the sub shop with her sister. Doing amazingly well too. If you hate your job to the point that every time you see your boss, crosshairs appear on his forehead, it's time for a new place to work. Yes, you have to make a living and there are things we have to put up with no matter what, but if its killing you, it's not worth it.

[DANIEL]

it's ahard committment to make with such an economy, maybe in a couple years when I free up some financial obligations ......

[Jack_O'neill]

She did it in 09, economy was about as rotten as it gets then. We had a bunch of the chain eateries die. There was a Shorty Smalls, a TGIFriday, a Smokey Bones, an O'Charleys and a Lonestar Steakhouse that all died within 2 months of each other and at about the same time she opened her shop. The shop she opened is in a little town just to the east of here, population of about 2500. She does some catering and has about 5 part time employees. Place stays packed. If you give them what they want, they will come.

[DANIEL]

she's brave lol

[Jack_O'neill]

she's brave lol

she is that...pity you can't meet her sometime. a real fireball. I had no doubt she'd make it succeed.

[jweigle]

Most if not all of us at one point in time in our careers have dealt with this situation.

My advice to you is this and its already been stated - Have all your information and statistics to back up your need or want, be prepared to handle the negativity that comes your way(have some form of heat reversal if necessary), and make a positive closing argument. Experiences will differ and more often than not I can at least document what I wanted fixed or aquired should the need for it come up again.

(i.e. How come we lost 3 workstations overnight? Well sir, you remember when I tried to lobby for those surge protectors and you said no because of the cost? Gotcha.)

At the end of the day though, I agree with Jack - you need to save your sanity. If you feel as if your workplace is looking more and more like a battlefield, I would be in the market looking to advance my career somewhere else because its not worth the extra drama.

[DANIEL]

my work is definitely a battle lol, which I don't mind, its the burocracy(I know I miss spelled it lol) that does me in .....