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    I am very near to buying my retirement bungalow, it needs some work and one part would be to extend the kitchen out the back to make room for a dining room and will also an allow exit to the garden for partys etc.

    My question is how much will it cost to have building regulation drawings drawn up, I know I do not need planning permission as I have already checked.

    I could do with a bit of professional help with my rather crude drawing I have uploaded it is based on the internal room sizes I have got from the estate agents web site, as you can see my extension is less then 3mts out to comply with planning and I am thinking ether a patio door or maybe a bi-folding door to exit towards the garage, the roof will just be a flat roof construction
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    Flat roof? Not a shed roof?

    You sure like your doors don't you? I'd open things up a little by eliminating a door or two.

    So the room to the bottom right is going to be used for a dining room?

    Bi-fold doors on an exterior wall towards the garage?

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    Flat roof? Not a shed roof?

    You sure like your doors don't you? I'd open things up a little by eliminating a door or two.

    So the room to the bottom right is going to be used for a dining room?



    Bi-fold doors on an exterior wall towards the garage?
    Sounds like the dining room will be at the back of the extension, closest to the garage.
    I agree about all those doors, and a flat roof might be asking for trouble.
    How many bedrooms is that meant to be?
    Is the largest room next to the kitchen to be a bedroom?
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    LOL Remark I did say"my rather crude drawing" as for all the doors I didnt design the building it is what it is I am just adding a room off the kitchen to allow a dining table

    the bottom right room is the lounge the two rooms on the left are the two bedrooms, the room to the left of the kitchen is the bathroom.

    do you think that a roof taken into the old roof would work ? as there is no cable ends to this building it slopes from the centre to all 4 outside walls like a pyramid

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    I'd create an opening between the kitchen/dining area and the "lounge". Where are the bedroom closets?

    The trouble with a flat roof is even in your country it would have to be designed to carry a snow load plus you have to worry about getting the rain off the roof. Had you given that any thought?

    The correct terminology is "gable" ends (like a triangle). The roof you describe is called a pyramid hip roof here in the U.S.

    Do you have any roof heights? What is the ceiling height? What is the height from the ground to the eave?

    To accommodate your new layout I think you will have to significantly alter the roof especially in the area of your new lounge.
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    There seems to be a significant difference between the existing and new layouts in terms of where walls and doors fall. Were you really planning on making that many structural changes or is there something wrong with the two plan views? What I did is make a block out of the existing layout and drop it over the new layout. I used the upper left hand corner of the building at the base point. The two do not match up in areas where rightfully they should. How can that be?

    The key to any good renovation plan would be accurate "before" and "after" plans showing what will be retained, demolished and added. Your contractor should have a clear idea of what it is you want to do before proceeding with any work. If there is a problem along the way because the plans were inaccurate your renovation project costs are going to balloon out of control. Your retirement bungalow is going to become a money pit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReMark View Post
    There seems to be a significant difference between the existing and new layouts in terms of where walls and doors fall. Were you really planning on making that many structural changes or is there something wrong with the two plan views? What I did is make a block out of the existing layout and drop it over the new layout. I used the upper left hand corner of the building at the base point. The two do not match up in areas where rightfully they should. How can that be?
    The new plan is rotated 270 degrees from the original.

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    I was blind now I can see! Funny!

    Thanks nestly.

    First thing I'd do is move that entrance door further to the left. No need to have that much space behind the door when it opens. And I would still consider having an opening between the kitchen and the "lounge" (what we Americans might call the "living" room). Who wants to walk through a doorway, turn a corner then walk through another doorway to go between the lounge and the kitchen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReMark View Post
    I was blind now I can see! Funny!

    Thanks nestly.

    First thing I'd do is move that entrance door further to the left. No need to have that much space behind the door when it opens. And I would still consider having an opening between the kitchen and the "lounge" (what we Americans might call the "living" room). Who wants to walk through a doorway, turn a corner then walk through another doorway to go between the lounge and the kitchen?
    I don't get these AEC objects, they have no dynamic attributes was trying to put in doors, not working, but the new roof (if I understood your description of the existing roof) could look like either the blue or the red lines in this plan view, to match the existing pitches and roof without having to redo the bulk of it, just tying into the original one.. The red offering another 1 1/2 meters of shade and weather protection to the back doors which obviously wouldn't open out, but I couldn't get them to flip or rotate or anything.
    Definitely put in double wide door opening into the kitchen, without the doors.
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    Dadgad that a good design, it would be easy to change,I take it the red lines would be a overhanging roof line yes? that could be good for shade in the summer as that is facing west so it's sunny in the afternoon.

    BTW i do not draw plans I only ever alter existing drawings, so yes its a mess that's why I am asking for help here, I do not even know what "AEC objects" are.

    Remark we do not have bedroom closets as a rule they are free standing wardrobes, if you check out the floor plan there are only 2 cupboards in the building, and even that is a lot as most modern bungalows over don't have any at all as we found out while house hunting, I just wished I lived in your counrty as I could buy a lot bigger house/bungalow over in the USA for less money then here thats for sure, only today on the tv that were showing a holiday bungalow in florida with 3 beds with unsuites and a really big lounge kitchen etc for £65,000 its me costing £165,000 for my 2 bed as it is on the plans.
    I have turned the orignal plan around now sorry about that
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