Combine Profiles Into One

[SwChilly]

I tried searching but couldn't find anything.

I have a profile but I want to show a pipe network from another profile in this profile. So I have two profiles I want to show as one. How do I do that?

I read somewhere that I need to explode the one, or convert the profiles into excel... I have no idea what that's talking about but I'd rather not explode anything.

Is there a way?

Or is there a way to add the pipe network to the profile when the network is referencing another alignment?

[CyberAngel]

I'm not sure how you would show a pipe network from one alignment in a profile for another alignment, or even why you would want to.

If you're serious about this, one possible solution (and I haven't tried this myself) is to create a second profile for the pipes and superimpose it on the first profile. Adjust the style for the second profile view so that nothing is visible except for the pipes.

[BlackBox]

I've just arrived at this speed bump as well in a particular project... I consider myself to still be new to C3D in many respects.

I have a center line alignment along a roadway, and a separate alignment (over a utility pipe). In the profile view, I need to show both the existing grade at the center line [alignment], the existing grade over the pipe [alignment], and the pipe network (that I will be creating).

By superimpose, are you suggesting that one create two profile views, and manually place them over one another at an adjoining station & elevation?

[CyberAngel]

If the road and pipe alignments are roughly parallel, you can show both profiles and the pipes in the same profile view. There's a tutorial or something about profiling a ditch alongside a road, which is a similar concept.

[BlackBox]

I'll have a look through the Profiles Tutorial in the Help Documentation; thanks anyway.

[wdlinker836]

I've tried to superimpose, but I find that the when bends and deflections are accounted for, the profile over the utility pipe is longer than the alignment of the centerline of the road.

I was hopeing that there woudl be a way to use the centerline of the road as a "master" alignment and then use a second alignment as a "slave" alignment. My thought is that this is similar to how when designing a turn lane the corridor uses on alignment to join the turnlane to the exsting road and another as the extents of the turnlane. The two alignments are technically different lengths, but the corridor only uses one for stationing.

[BlackBox]

Welcome to CADTutor!

As I am sure most do, I also use the roadway alignment to generate the 'master' profile view, then create a Profile for the needed utility to be shown. To superimpose the utility profile onto the roadway profile view, use the _AeccSuperImposeProfile Command.

Another option, is to simply select the 'master' profile view, right click and select 'Profile View Properties', go to Profiles Tab, and check the 'Draw' box for the utility Profile.

[CyberAngel]

I was hopeing that there woudl be a way to use the centerline of the road as a "master" alignment and then use a second alignment as a "slave" alignment. My thought is that this is similar to how when designing a turn lane the corridor uses on alignment to join the turnlane to the exsting road and another as the extents of the turnlane. The two alignments are technically different lengths, but the corridor only uses one for stationing.

I haven't done much work on roads, but when I have, the features near the road were located by station and offset. If you wanted to locate, say, a valve, you would give the station on the centerline that it's perpendicular to, then the distance from that station to the valve with a left/right note. I'm pretty sure there's a command to create those labels.

To show the surfaces along the pipe itself, why wouldn't you use a profile that followed the pipe? How could you follow a profile when you couldn't be sure how to find a specific point on it?

[BlackBox]

I'm pretty sure there's a command to create those labels.

... The AeccAddAlignOffXYLbl, and AeccAddAlignOffLbl Alignment Commands come to mind.

** Edit - For those that use the Ribbon, Annotate Tab, Labels & Tables Panel, Add Labels Pulldown, Alignment, <Options>

[Bill_Myron]

Thought I would shed light on a few points in this topic.

First - There is a difference between a Profile and a Profile View. A Profile View is the grid or box that displays profiles and pipe networks. A Profile is derrived from a surface or created manually with the Civil 3D tools.

If you apply Profile View to the first post in the appropriate places, the question is a lot easier to understand.


Lets take RenderMan's example. You have an alignment for the CL of the road. This will be be your baseline for witch you want to show all of your profiles and networks. This will be where we reference our stationing and offsets. Use this alignment to make your main Profile View.

This does not mean that you can have only one alignment. You can have multiple alignments for were you want OG profiles, curb offset targets and utilities. All of these other profiles can be superimposed into the main baseline Profile View. RenderMan I would use Superimpose for your grade line over your pipe network.

You can create Offset Profiles as well along ONE alignment. These are the same as sampling the OG surface along a profile, without the extra profile.

As for Pipe Networks, You can display them in any profile view. Pipe Networks do not need a parent alignment to be drawn, so they are not tied to an alignment as profiles are.


Hope this helps and didnt just confuse any more!