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[neophoible]

I hear you.
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Live long enough, you'll know everything.

Thanks for hearing. Never expect to live that long, but I do enjoy learning a bit more each day, especially on this forum.

PS I wasn't really aiming my comments at the tired OP, or at anyone else for that matter. It's just that a 'lucky' 'guess' by someone like ReMark likely has a ton of experience behind it that makes it a lot less luck and a lot less guess than might be inferred, and thus worth looking into. In this particular case, there were at least two paths to the same end. This is not so unusual in AutoCAD. Therefore, it may not be a good idea to ignore a suggestion just because it's not one you've heard of or thought about or used before. And, yes, you can quote this back to me when it looks like I'm doing this myself.