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    Hello everyone. This is my first post here. I recently became employed by a firm that uses ACAD2013, and I'm trying to learn as much as possible in a quick time frame to set up some templates. I previously worked for 10 years as a Detailer, with ACAD2000 being the last version, and that was 5 years ago. After a few days of research, it has become blindingly obvious a lot has changed since then

    I do use the Help module within Acad, and usually try to search the net if I can't find an answer in Help. This is one of those times I can't find an answer in either Help nor the net..at least existing. That is why I am here.

    In the past, I pretty much used default Acad setups for Model and Paperspace, whereby the editing screen was Black, with no grid of any kind. However, upon starting Acad2013 the first time, the default Modelspace background is White with a Black line grid superimposed. This grid really bothers me. In my desire to remove it, or turn it off, I couldn't find any command that allows you to turn off the grid, so I did the next best thing I could find.

    I right clicked on the modelspace backgound, went to Options, and by default, the DISPLAY tab is shown. However, things have changed since I last used Acad.

    On the Display screen, there is a "Color" button, which when selected, brings up a prompt where you can select different elements, and change their color. Well, since I couldn't find any way to turn the grid off, I simply selected the horizontal and vertical grid lines and changed their respective colors to white, as the background by default is already white.

    However, SOMETIMES, I want to work with a Black background, but when I change the background to black, now the grid lines are WHITE... arrrggrrrrrrrrr.. So now, I have to change the grid lines as well. PITA. There is a "Return defaults" selection..but that still requires changing things one by one again next time.

    So..my first question is..does anyone know of a command or option that allows one to turn the modelspace grid off and on?

    Second question. Can the grid spacing be changed too? I haven't had too much time to research these things. Hence coming here. Thanks for any insight. And btw...this might be an ongoing thread for a while.

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    OMG..What a dolt. Nevermind I found the answer. Due to the small font size in the "SEARCH" field, I had typed "gid"...instead of..."grid". Haahahahaha! What a maroon. Ok guys.

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    Ok guys, got the grid thing solved, but now I'm curious about something else.

    Ok, question 1.

    As I said...sometimes I work with a Black modelspace background color. However, if I go into Layout, the view port still shows a White background in modelspace. While in pape rspace, I click on the view port and enter model space, and checked the Options/Color for model space background...and it still is checked Black, but displays White in the viewport. Any one have a clue why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3dDetailer View Post
    ...first question is..does anyone know of a command or option that allows one to turn the modelspace grid off and on?
    F7 or Lower left of screen - click the Grid icon.

    Second question. Can the grid spacing be changed too?
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    Yes, right click on the Grid icon - lower left of screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3dDetailer View Post
    ...and it still is checked Black, but displays White in the viewport. Any one have a clue why?
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    Modelspace is modelspace You can set whatever background color you want for modelspace.
    Paperspace layout is paperspace. You can set whatever sheet color you want for your layout.
    You have viewports in paperspace. These do not change the sheet color to modelspace.
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    An excellent first post in which you showed some good thinking by trying to change the grid colour

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    A good idea is set up a template dwg with all you default settings including layout tabs with a title block, when you go to a layout tab it will appear white until you set a plot area which will change to black, from our auto generated layouts they appear half white/black the simple trick I use is PLOT pick from my presaved sheet set top left a suitable sheet then APPLY then CANCEL now its all set and you can change printers etc but the screen will remain black in the area of interest any time you look.
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    Welcome to the forum.

    Sounds like you have a real good handle on the software, just need to catch up a bit with all the new fangled stuff.
    I would suggest, as a fellow detailer, that if you haven't checked it out yet, and work with 3D models, VIEWBASE will likely be an eye opener for you.
    If you haven't noticed yet, the VIEWPORT controls which display in the upper left corner of your modelspace and any ACTIVE viewport are pretty helpful.
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    Hey, thanks everyone. I need every tip I can get. I could spend every day for a month reading the Help module, but frankly..i haven't got time. Although I do when I run into a problem. Unfortunately, sometimes the HELP module isn't very clear. And the font is waaaay to small, at least for my eyes. Getting old sucks.

    These do not change the sheet color to modelspace.
    hmmm, so there really ISN"T a REAL viewport at all is there? Just a representation of a window into modelspace, ...and Autocad just displays the drawing data within that area...is that correct? Welll if so...at least my question brought the fact to light. Which is what I like. But I just hate finding out I've been conned all along. Makes me feel like a complete dolt. Again, thanks everyone. I have a lot more questions but I'll post a new thread for each one.

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