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okay, confession time: *l-o-n-g* time acad user and abuser, but i am not understanding some viewport 'features' that feel like bugs to me: 1. UCSFOLLOW: i don't get it, don't like it, and it doesn't do anything for me except make *other* viewports contents jump around weirdly. i have actually read a couple tutorials, etc on this, and *still* don't see what use it has for me (bearing in mind that there are a million autocad commands that are useful only in certain circumstances; i'm sure there are applications it is helpful) 2. related to that, in using drawings set up by others, i go to one viewport and double-click it to pan the view to another widget in model space, change the scale, whatever, and *another* separate viewport decides on its own it wants to flip around to some oddball view, for dog's sake *why*? i WANT my viewports to be separate and discreet, not connected in some fashion that messes up another one. i don't get it. (the original viewport had UCSFOLLOW = 0, and the other = 1; *why* is simply double-clicking the original viewport causing the other to flip around?) in any event, i usually work around these things by simply making new viewports, etc; but i *like* to take existing drawings as templates when they have most of the same type of work I'm going to be doing on a new project, but the viewport weirdness makes that reuse of files annoying. color me stoopid, charleyy charley@svmarchitects.com