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dany2012

I only have a tiny macbook right now, and I need a more powerful desktop to run programs like AutoCAD 2011 (3d), SketchUp, CS5, and eventually Revit, and 3ds Max. I am a student, and I don't have ton of money to spend, but I do want something that will run these programs smoothly. I was thinking about building a computer, but I'm not even sure where to begin.

 

Any suggestions as to where to look? My dad keeps telling me to just go to Best Buy, LOL

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ReMark

Begin with the minimum system requirements for the software you want to run. Whichever one has the most stringent specs use that as the "base" configuration for your new computer. Then start coming up with a realistic budget. Buy the wrong computer and you'll end up regretting it for the length of time it takes you to save for it or charge it and pay it off.

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Raudel Solis

i Recommend going to Frys web: http://frys.com/ if there is one near your location

They Have A Lot of computers to choose from

If your a Student I recommend a Laptop if your taking it to school

If your Learning From Home Purchase A desktop

They Are More Powerful

Standard Would Be 4Gb Of Ram, Or more

A 2 Ghz Core 2 Duo is Ok I use a Core i7 720 Qm, But recently released, There are now Core i7 2nd Generation cpus

Nvidia Graphics Card is Good, at 512 Mb, 1Gb is recommended,

Nvidia because its more compatible, Though Ati Radeon does make some good cards but it doesnt offer Physx support,

I have an 1gb Ati Radeon Graphics Card

a 300gb hd is ok, but a 500 Gb is recommended

also consider purchasing an external Hd like an Hp Simple save

Laser Mouse accesory Is a MUST,

 

btw: I personally HATE BEST BUY

wanted to charge a friend of mine $300

for something i could fix with Basic Recovery tools

 

Recommend that if you purchase a computer make sure it has a built in Recovery hard drive apart from the Main HD,

17" is Preferred, 13-14 I find Obsolete

 

Key Things

 

4Gb of ram or more

2.00 Ghz or higher Processor (Refrain from Purchasing Single Core Computers) 2 Cores or more is the way to go

Graphics, Minimum Of 512 MB (1Gb Recommended)

17" Preferred if you dont mind carrying it, ( I Find Carrying My laptop Hassle Free, Painless, Simple Etc...)

Recommended Accesories

Belkin Cooling Stand or any Cooling Fan,

Reason: Reduces Dust Intake From the bottom,

2. High Performance Machines Must Stay Cool

http://www.belkin.com/pressroom/releases/uploads/01_08_07CoolingStand.html

Also

A Laser Mouse

Reason: Unless Will Speed up The design process in autocad and in any other program

Doesnt have to be Expensive $25 is ok

 

Software: Purchase All Software

If you Have Autocad, It Better Be Purchased, Or You Must Have a Valid Liscense To Use

If You Dont Purchase Or Acquire 1,

If you Plan To get It Pirated, I would Say Get Off This Forum.

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ReMark

The OP wants a desktop not a laptop. Since he states that he is a student he can obtain software from AutoDesk for free by joining the Student Community. He does not have to buy the software or obtain a pirated copy.

 

dany2012:

 

You can get a relatively inexpensive but reasonable good computer here:

http://www.ibuypower.com/

 

Yes, I realize the site is geared toward gamers but CAD users and gamers both put heavy demands on their systems. The one real drawback will be the graphics card since I doubt you can buy a system with a card that is on AutoDesk's "approved and certified" list. As cost is the primary consideration you'll just have to sacrifice on this aspect.

 

There is one other possibility and that is craigslist. The key thing here, when buying a "used" system, is that you know what you want and you also know what you're talking about. If you are not computer savy then get a friend to help you. There are some good buys in craigslist but it is up to you to know one when you see it. Don't buy anything unless you can see it in person to make sure it boots up and actually runs. You should also inquire about any CDs or DVDs with software for the programs that might already be loaded on the computer.

 

One last suggestion. I'd consider a 19" to 21" LCD monitor for a desktop system. These too can be purchased right off craigslist but once again I'd caution you to see the monitor in action before purchasing. I've bought three this way. They were a 19" Hanns-G, a 25" Hanns-G and a 21" Viewsonic.

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Buggsy

I do alot of buying PC components from TigerDirect.com

I just put together one for a freind of mine to run 2010 Mechanical & Inventor.

 

1) used tower with new 650 watt power supply. 29.99

2) AMD Athlon II 3.3 Ghz (model 565 I think) Dual Core I think 75.00

3) Gigabyte motherboard M68MT-D3 a sale on this at the moment 39.99

4) 4 GB's memory 1333 mhz 39.99

5) ATI Work Station 4800 1 Gb Video capable of 3 monitors (Autocad Certified) 159.99

6) 500 gig HD (I added a second 500 gig drive to run raid to mirror his first drive) but this is not needed in your case 39.99

7) 22" Viewsonic Widescreen 139.99

All for around $500.00 plus shipping costs

 

This unit runs real strong and handles autocad well.

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ReMark

It probably runs strong and handles well because there is no "crapware" on it too which many companies like Dell and HP like to throw on for good measure.

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Buggsy

I understand this and I didn't say anything about all the software that I loaded on it for my friend.

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ReMark

I was referring to the "trial" programs they like to load on new systems.

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Raudel Solis

laptop or desktop

 

either way i think i gave the standards

at least 500 gb hd

512 mb Graphichs minimum 1gb recommended

2.00 ghz multicore cpu acceptable Core 2 duo, Core i5 or i7

4 Gb Ram Minimum 6-8 gb Great

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CADkitt

I did some research into this and I recommended this pc to my boss it costed from hp 1500 dollar.

And if you build it yourself it is about 300/200 dollar cheaper.

Product

HP Z400 Workstation w/ 475W 85 PLUS Energy Efficient 6-DIMM Chassis

 

Operating system

 

Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64-bit

 

Monitor

 

ZR22w 21.5 inch Widescreen LCD Monitor VM626A8#ABA

 

Processor

 

Intel® Xeon W3530 2.80 8MB/1066 QC CPU

 

 

Memory

 

HP 6 GB (3 x 2 GB) DDR3-1333 ECC

 

Video/graphics

 

 

ATI FirePro V5800 1GB Graphic Card

 

1st hard drive

 

HP 250 GB SATA 3 Gb/s NCQ 7200 rpm

 

 

Optical drive

 

 

16X DVD+/- RW DL SuperMulti

 

Keyboard

 

HP USB standard keyboard

 

Mouse

 

 

HP USB optical scroll mouse

 

Warranty

 

3 years parts, 3 years labor, and 3 years onsite service (3/3/3) standard warranty

 

Accessories

 

HP Promotional Flyer

 

 

Additional accessories

 

 

HP Air Cooling Solution

 

 

Thermal kit

 

 

HP High Perf Heatsink Thermal Kit

 

Security accessories

 

HP Protect Tools™ security software

Recovery Media

 

 

Windows 7 OS WW Recovery Media

 

This pc I got at home:

1

ASRock X58 Deluxe3 iX58, SATA2 RAID, GLAN

 

 

€172.00

1

Club3D Videokaart PCI-e Radeon HD5750 1GB HDMI/DP Silent

 

 

€145.00

1

Cooler Master HTK-002 Thermal Compound Kit

 

 

€3.90

1

Cooler Master Midi Tower Sileo 500 ATX + eXtreme Power 500W

 

 

€79.00

1

Intel Core i7 930 2.80GHz 4.8GT/s 8MB Box

 

 

€249.00

2

OCZ 2x2GB DDR3 PC10666 CL9.0 Gold Low Voltage

 

€151.00

1

Samsung 1TB SATA300 32MB, HD103SJ

€59.00

1

Samsung TFT Monitor P2450H 24", DVI, HDMI (zwart)

€215.00

Build it myself 6 months ago total price was 1090 euro. No CAD video card because I think there overrated and seriously overprices. They also suck at games. And decent game cards do not suck at autocad. The reason I bought a passive cooled is noise.

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