boxel0 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I have 3Ds MAx 2011, and have the standard graphics card which came with my Medion PC. And im finding that everything is really jumpy when trying to model in 3Ds Max (zoom&orbit). AND rendering is Looooooong SO i am looking for Graphics card upto £250 And i have seen the Quadro 600? Whats ur ideas, and what do u have ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Changing your graphics card will not help with speeding up rendering time. That's a processor and/or RAM issue. Your other problems are probably graphics related, but they could be processor or RAM issues also. Can you post your full computer specs? You may need to upgrade to a more high powered computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxel0 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 its a medion: 2.6ghz quad core processor 3gb ram graphics card is a 512mb radeon thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 What's the number of the card? It should be "Radeon HD 3650" or something like that. Before you spend any money, have you installed both service packs? http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/index?siteID=123112&id=2334435&linkID=9241178#section2 You might also want to try updating the drivers for your video card. Does this problem happen in all files or just a few? Max doesn't like it when objects are far away from X0,Y0,Z0, so always make sure you are working close to the origin, otherwise strange things like this can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxel0 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 OOOO no i have'nt DO i have to do them individually ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Yes, install service pack 1 and then install service pack 2. You can't install service pack 2 unless service pack 1 is already installed. Then check the ATI website for updated drivers for your card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 3GB of RAM? What OS are you running (Vista, XP, Win7, other)? Is this a 32-bit or 64-bit system? Is your software 32-bit or 64-bit? Personally I think 3GB of RAM is pretty meager unless you are running a 32-bit system which cannot take advantage (recognize) large amounts of RAM (12-32GB). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxel0 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 I have windows 7 Its a 32 bit machine and 32 bit software Im installing the service packs now, Processor: amd 620 X4 Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 4200 How much RAM can i have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 You got a new computer and it is 32-bit? That was not a good idea given the type of work you want to do with it. A 32-bit computer basically limits you to no more than 3.5GB of memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 You never said what kind of files you're working on. If you're just building models and working on simple scenes, the machine you have should be fine. But if you're working on huge scenes with millions of polygons, you might want to think about moving to a 64 bit operating system and increase your RAM. Otherwise you will most likely continue to have these kinds of problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxel0 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 No its not actually a new pc I am actually a 2d cad man ! So at the time this machine was perfect But now i want 3d Do u think the graphics card is good enough, or would a Quadro 600 be an ideal purchase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxel0 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 Im not sure where im going with 3d at the moment, I have just bought some more ram, which should take me to 8gb But i might start saving for a new PC Any good makes that specialise with 3d cad pc's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 You cannot install 8GB of RAM on a 32 bit machine. A 32 bit operating system can only access and use up to 3.5GB, so installing anything over 4GB is pointless. Take a look at my computer details. I had my home computer custom built by XI Computers, and at the time, the cost was about $2,400. I got the same machine for work, about 6 months later, and the cost was down to about $2,200. You could probably get the same machine now for under $2,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 The Quadro 600 is an adequate card for your intended purposes. The point we have been trying to make is that to address 4GB or more of RAM you need a 64-bit OS which you do not have. You're stuck for the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxel0 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 Hopefully I can cancel my order. So how much ram can a 64bit machine take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Depends on your operating system and how much RAM your motherboard can accept. Here are the upper RAM limits for the different editions of Windows 7: Starter: 8GB Home Basic: 8GB Home Premium: 16GB Professional: 192GB Enterprise: 192GB Ultimate: 192GB But one thing you need to think about is how much RAM do you actually need? I have 12GB in my machine but I've never even come close to using it all. I could have probably been fine with just 8GB. But if you have money to burn . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 RAM is like money. You can never have too much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxel0 Posted August 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 6, 2011 So i have done some research and apparantely my process "AMD 620 X4" is 64bit capable, So does that mean i can put on windows 64bit and put in my extra ram ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 What about your motherboard? If your computer was built as a 32 bit system, it may have a motherboard that can only take 4GB. You need to check on that and see how much RAM your motherboard can accept. By the way, what happened after you installed the service packs? Are you still having the problem? Did you look into updating your graphics drivers? I really don't think moving to a 64 bit OS and adding more RAM is going to solve this problem. 3GB should be fine for simply working in the viewport. I worked for several years on a 32 bit system with 3GB RAM and had no real problems other than slow render times. So again, unless you're working in extremely large files with millions of polygons, you really don't have to upgrade your system. And since you really don't even know where you're going with 3D right now, I would not recommend spending a lot of money on upgrades. You might find that 3D just isn't your cup of tea and then all those upgrades will have been for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxel0 Posted August 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 6, 2011 No i know 3D is my thing, i took a course in London and have fallen in love with it, Just finding the program very slow when it comes to panning etc I have upgraded service pack 2 And i had already upgraded my driver for the graphics card I have looked and my m-board can take 8gb ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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