JD Mather Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/index?id=17756107&siteID=123112 Quote
tzframpton Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/index?id=17756107&siteID=123112 I hope it's not some big hype like they did last month, only to unveil AutoCAD for Mac. Quote
JD Mather Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 I woudn't get too excited - they haven't figured out how to compete with SolidWorks even though they purchased Alias, Moldflow and Algor. (and many others) http://ellipsis-autodesk.typepad.com/blog/2011/09/speculation-abounds.html I just wish I could guess which CNC CAM software company they will announce (the missing link in art-to-part). Quote
tzframpton Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 I woudn't get too excited - they haven't figured out how to compete with SolidWorks even though they purchased Alias, Moldflow and Algor. (and many others) That definitely seems to be how Autodesk does things. When there's a software application available that is better than theirs, instead of competing, they buy 'em up!! Revit is a good example. What's sad is that the technology that drives DWG is such an archaic and outdated model but Autodesk keeps on driving it along, year after year. Quote
Organic Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 I can't see the base CAD plan production changing all that much. Just look at the past twenty years and it hasn't changed significantly. Architectural CAD certainly uses 3D visualization more these days although this doesn't carry over to all industries, and the foreman in-charge of building the building doesn't build from some pretty render it is built from the standard 2D construction plans that have been used (either drawn by hand or with CAD) for 100+ years. Pretty renders are for selling the project to the client. Quote
Cad Monkey 2 Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 I don't think the biggest advantage to 3D CAD is the rendering, it's the move towards building things in 3D before they are built in the real world - that's what we are in the middle of now and it's a big deal. I don't think the impact is truly appreciated yet because we are still in the middle of the 3D revolution. For Architecture (the industry, not the software), it used to be that you would only have certain areas that had vertical sections drawn and those were the only areas that were truly figured out in any kind of 3D sense, now it can be the whole building. Ask a General Contractor how often things don't work in the field like they do on the piece of paper. That's never going to go away completely, but I think it's going to get a lot better. Quote
Dana W Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 I don't think the biggest advantage to 3D CAD is the rendering, it's the move towards building things in 3D before they are built in the real world - that's what we are in the middle of now and it's a big deal. I don't think the impact is truly appreciated yet because we are still in the middle of the 3D revolution.For Architecture (the industry, not the software), it used to be that you would only have certain areas that had vertical sections drawn and those were the only areas that were truly figured out in any kind of 3D sense, now it can be the whole building. Ask a General Contractor how often things don't work in the field like they do on the piece of paper. That's never going to go away completely, but I think it's going to get a lot better. Agreed. If you've ever tried to run something as simple as a zero clearance furnace flue up a chase in a new house you would see the practicality of 3D right away. The framed chases routinely have different sized openings in each floor, and different sized enclosures between each floor. (Call the Architect, I just draw it.) Them zero clearance 45's is E X P E N S I V E. Then you usually end up with the main vent stack among other things, in the same chase. Transpose that problem into a new Ford Class Aircraft carrier and you get a bottom line on your expense report that looks like the result for E=MC2. Quote
kencaz Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Architectural CAD certainly uses 3D visualization more these days although this doesn't carry over to all industries, and the foreman in-charge of building the building doesn't build from some pretty render it is built from the standard 2D construction plans that have been used (either drawn by hand or with CAD) for 100+ years. Pretty renders are for selling the project to the client. I don't think its a matter of if 2D will still be used in construction as much as how the construction documents are created. I think generating your 2D documents from 3D Models is much more efficient and less prone to errors. That was the whole point of BIM in the first place. A 3D Model that can be used to output your your 2D Construction Documents. Quote
tzframpton Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 I can't see the base CAD plan production changing all that much. Just look at the past twenty years and it hasn't changed significantly.The output is the same, it's the way you get to the output that matters now. Revit is the best example I can think of. As you're virtually constructing an architectural building, it's creating the "2D Plan Views" everyone's used to. Architectural CAD certainly uses 3D visualization more these days although this doesn't carry over to all industries, and the foreman in-charge of building the building doesn't build from some pretty render it is built from the standard 2D construction plans that have been used (either drawn by hand or with CAD) for 100+ years. Pretty renders are for selling the project to the client.That's not entirely accurate. 3D isn't just for visualizations, it's also used for real-world virtual coordination to reduce time and cost of possible problematic scenarios. That's pretty much what I deal with every job now. The General Contractor requires BIM as a useful tool, and although it's far from perfect it proves itself useful and I have personally seen it save an enormous amount of cost and time. So it's not just pretty pictures. Quote
bennyboy86 Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 geez all this is pretty advanced to begin with i would be happy for a computer that could handle opening a 3D model and being able to orbit around with out crashing........also dont know about some of your companies but even in ten? 20years? it all comes down to cost cant see any of these things being very affordable, that is why they are in movies cause no normal/small company could afford it.... Quote
ColinPearson Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 @bennyboy - tell me about it trying to deal with modeling big process vessels and their heat exchangers on a POS IBM Lenovo Crappad... I feel ya, fo sho. Quote
DANIEL Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 I believe the children are the future, teach them well and watch them lead the way, show them all the CAD that they possess inside.... sorry, couldn't resist Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 i believe the children are the future, teach them well and watch them lead the way, show them all the cad that they possess inside.... Sorry, couldn't resist boooooooo!!!! Quote
DANIEL Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I know haloween is coming up but come on man! Quote
SLW210 Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 In the future there will be only machines and giant green men. Quote
Raudel Solis Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) Cad64 AKA Rod Deweese Created a "CADBOT" .. http://www.rdeweese.com/gallery/3dartwork/cadbot1.html there is the link ^^^ Edited October 22, 2011 by Raudel Solis Quote
Cad64 Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Remark AKA Rod Deweese Created a "CADBOT" .. No, not ReMark. It's Cad64. And yes, my CadBot is the future of CAD. :wink: Quote
Raudel Solis Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 No, not ReMark. It's Cad64. And yes, my CadBot is the future of CAD. :wink: oh wow i guess i said REMARk because i saw remark very active in previous post in this tread.. sorry Cad64, Rod Deweese Error corrected... Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Typical cad station BEFORE the 2012 apocalypse: Typical cad station AFTER the 2012 Apocalypse: Quote
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