acad2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 I'm a CAD Operator and was only given the AutoCAD LT version. However, I'm trying to see if I can upgrade my version and need some good reasons why. Things I've found that I don't have are: -Express Tools (I don't really even know what they all are, except I know there is a text to mtext tool that would help out) -Can't access Reference Manager Any other useful tools I should be aware of? Quote
ReMark Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 With full AutoCAD you would get the ability to use lisp routines. Here is a link to a features comparison between the full and LT version of 2012. http://www.cadac.com/nl/brochures/Documents/autocad-vs-autocad-lt-comparison-matrix.pdf When you are no longer using 2012 are you going to change your user name? Quote
Squirltech Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 When you are no longer using 2012 are you going to change your user name? Quite the ReMark! Quote
acad2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Posted June 11, 2012 haha I am actually using 2013 now. I probably should create something new I'm not really familiar with LISP Routines (at all) I don't do 3D work, I guess the only thing I'm really missing out on are the express tools? Maybe the parameters with dynamic blocks. Quote
BIGAL Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 If you draw the same thing over and over then you need lisp etc eg A concrete slab layout plan with internal ribs and fixed spacing took about 30 mins to draw the client got draw outline including curves, on old pc 5 years ago about 45 seconds to do the same thing. 2 slabs =1 hr = $$$ 90 secs = wowww what a saving. Quote
Dadgad Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Quite the ReMark! One can only wonder what ReMark's user name might one day become, if he ever ceases (don't hold your breath) to be remarkable? Quote
ReMark Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 I've already got a name picked out......ReTired. Quote
Maxelkat Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 I was going to start a new thread to ask my question, but as this is so closely related I'll tag it on here. In fact my question is the reverse of acad2012. I'm currently using the full version of AutoCAD 2006. My company are looking at getting more up to date AutoCAD, but want to cut costs by getting the LT version. I'm not sure what is and isn't included in LT. I use lisp, fields, diesel, dynamic blocks, express tools etc. I don't use 3D or block attributes. Elliott Quote
ReMark Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Look at the link to the comparison matrix. There is no lisp in LT but you can use a macro and diesel as well. And there will be no Express Tools in LT. But we've covered all this already. Quote
Maxelkat Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Okay thanks ReMark. I'll have to examine how much I use Lisp and Express Tools. Quote
ReMark Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Find the tools you use the most then see if you can conceive of a way to duplicate in LT. If you can't and you really need the specific tools then LT may not be a good fit. To keep costs down you could always look into one of the AutoCAD clones. A lot of the functionality at a significantly lower price. Quote
BIGAL Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Tested a architectural add on via Intellicad & Corelcad using lisp worked ok If I had to buy an LT because told thats all would buy a non Autocad product instead to much customisation. If your using full plain autocad and not using lisps etc then you will be amazed at how much you can time improve. Some 3rd party add on products money back guarrantee if you haven't improved by 1 week ! Quote
Dadgad Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 I've already got a name picked out......ReTired. Excellent! Glad to see you have a long range plan. Guess you decided against ReTread. Quote
irneb Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 I'm in agreement ... if you're trying to save costs by going LT ... then you'd be better off using some clone instead. E.g. LT @ US$1200 while something like BricsCad @ $420-$710 ... and you get all lisp customizations available (not so in LT). I can't actually understand why you'd pay around twice the price for something which does less. Quote
ReMark Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 I don't understand why AutoDesk continues to hike the price on LT. Now $1,200 (U.S.) is entry level? That's just crazy. In the end they are just forcing customers to leave rather than encouraging them to stay and eventually, if circumstances dictate, upgrade to the full version. After just upgrading one seat from 2009 to 2013 ($2,800) and paying for a Subscription on another seat ($450) plus the Subscription for AutoCAD Electrical ($495) my boss is asking me whether it is all worth it. I'm starting to wonder myself. We'll be meeting some time just before the budget year starts in October to discuss moving away from AutoCAD sometime in 2013 or by 2014. Quote
Maxelkat Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 I'm intrigued by mention of BricsCAD. Does it support diesel equations in fields, as I use an awful lot of them? I'm planning to download the trial version to test it out, but have to wait until my IT dept give me permission. Quote
ReMark Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 I did not see it listed as a feature at the Bricscad website but there was this. Visual Basic for Applications (VBA) (Windows only). Fast LISP engine with +450 VLAX functions support. Highly compatible ADS/SDS API. Highly compatible COM API. BRX/ARX support. Quote
Dadgad Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) I've already got a name picked out......ReTired. Me too. Deadgad. Edited July 1, 2012 by Dadgad Quote
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