edwinprakoso Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I don't understand how you can open a drawing that was done previously, work on it for 5 minutes, forget to save it and not be able to reopen the original DWG file. Where did it disappear to? Did you search your entire hard drive? You're not on a network are you? Something seems amiss. I remember that there is an issue with saving file while working in Block Editor. This could be it. If this is the case, then the only hope is the backup file or autosave. If there is no backup, then he need to redraw it from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organic Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I remember that there is an issue with saving file while working in Block Editor. This could be it. If this is the case, then the only hope is the backup file or autosave. If there is no backup, then he need to redraw it from scratch. Yes, I've encountered that issue a few times before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Mather Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 The file size ,currently, is 62.3KB...... Now we are getting some useful information. I just saved a blank file and it was approximately 32k It is unlikely there is anything salvagable in that file, but you might attach it here as requested previously for others to check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 The problem is,that I thought I had saved the file in my normal manner,but in the flap at the time I have obviously not done so.The file size ,currently, is 62.3KB. I have located a .BAK file but that is the same size and I cannot open it anyway. I do find meaningless and trivial not particularly helpful in this context-----but then you don't have the problem. I will thank you for your interest----i have brought some amusement into your ivory towers and I shall continue to redraw the file. I distinctly recall telling you what to do with a BAK file (i.e. - renaming). Maybe you skipped reading that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainlines Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Hope the OP comes back, I'm interested in how this one plays out. Don't take the advice as condescending (even if it sometimes may sound like it) the folks on here will do their utmost to help you out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f700es Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I hope the OP figures out that he probably only lost 5 minutes of work. This is just a classic example of not really knowing your CAD system and how it backs up your work. Not picking on the OP but any good CAD user should know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLW210 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I remember that there is an issue with saving file while working in Block Editor. This could be it. If this is the case, then the only hope is the backup file or autosave. If there is no backup, then he need to redraw it from scratch. If that is the case, it should be cured with RECOVER. Supposed to be updates to fix the "save from block editor" problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Mather Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) If you come back - in addition to quick checks like checking file size searching and renaming *.bak files I want to make sure you understand the meaning of my reference to "floaters". Occasionally you might accidently create some little piece of geometry far far away from the main geometry. Then when you do a zoom all because AutoCAD has to back out so far to show everything - the geometry appears so small on the screen that it actually disappears. The sudden reaction is "all is lost". But it isn't really - simply need to find the floater(s) and delete or move closer the main geometry. Everyone here has been through the same thing you experienced and learned these lessons the hard way. Edited February 6, 2013 by JD Mather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubrigens Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 I am certain there is nothing floating. After many years on a drawing board,I am not confident with CAD or computers-----How do I attach the file to this message!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheSyn Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Under the Quick Reply text input field, click "Go Advanced," then "Manage Attachments." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neophoible Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I concur that there is no need to feel offended here. Everyone has had these moments of dread and panic, and everyone has lost drawings and data; consequently, everyone here feels for you. They just have not yet given up hope, because recovery may be very near and much easier than you think. I do admit--and I apologize for not being able to help it--that I was a bit amused at the ludicrous accusations, especially when so many are earnestly trying to help…for free! If you are able to figure out how to post the drawing, be sure to post the .bak file as well, just in case it is somehow different. As for floaters, how can you be so sure? You are too inexperienced at this to say this so confidently. Floaters can easily be created accidentally without one’s realizing it. This is especially true when using COPY, as your original item is left intact. All you have to do is accidentally treat the base point as the displacement by hitting Enter prematurely. You may be wondering why nothing happened. While it may look like nothing happened, there is now a perfect copy floating way out there in space, just like you told it to do, accidentally of course. Less likely things could hide everything from you, e.g., all Layers OFF or all Frozen. The Block Editor scenario mentioned does not seem likely, as you said you did not Save. In many cases, one way to tell if you have anything in your drawing would be to enter the command SELECT and then the option ALL. If it reports 0 objects found, then you may indeed have an empty drawing. But it sounds like you do not, so why not give it a try just to see? Be sure to tell us what you find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubrigens Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 RCSA2070.dwgThanks---learnt something new! Here is the file for what it's worth------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f700es Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Looks blank to me. So now it is time to look at the .bak file as well as the .sv$ file (if there is one for this file). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheSyn Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I only see one layer in the drawing, is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana W Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I find the time report rather interesting. See attachment. TIME.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana W Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 What I mean is, that drawing has only been opened for edit for about an hour and twenty minutes. It is definitely not a drawing that has been opened and worked on for up to three weeks, and the drawing is absolutely empty. I have a feeling the OP may have saved the default Drawing1.dwg over the original drawing somehow. this would probably render the .bak file empty as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbroada Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I did wonder if "finger trouble" was more likely that an AutoCAD obliteration of all the data. I know when we lose drawings they can usually be found in a different folder as somebody has dragged them unintentionally. And they usually only come to light after we have put in the request for IT to restore them from the back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubrigens Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 You could be on to something there---I dimly recall Drawing1.dwg surfacing during the the shutdown panic. I would like to thank everyone who has shown an interest---I've given up on any recovery possibility and I'm well on the path to recreation. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I think you said AutoCAD was set up to create BAK files. Did you find where the files were being saved to so you know in the future where to find them if you need to? What do you have the time span set for re: automatic saves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f700es Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I would still look for the .bak file or the .sv$ files. Something I always do when I set up a new install of AutoCAD is the create a folder on the hard drive under C: for my "automatic save file location". Create the folder and then go into AutoCAD's options and select this folder for this function. I also am a bit paranoid about autosaves and I have mine set to 10 minutes and I have my incremental save percentage set to 0 so it does a full save. Just some things to look at so you don't lose work. Good luck. Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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