jongor Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 I redrew the outline, much simpler now, see attached. The white lines aren't joined because those don't need to be filleted. Extruding just the red creates an extruded surface, which can't be filleted Joining into one continuous spline and then extruding then trying to do a 3d Filletedge produces this: "Modeling Operation Error: Face-face blend geometry ill-defined or undefined." j body.dwg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Mather Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I didn't open the file yet - but when you have any combination of splines, lines, arcs, polylines - use presspull instead. Actually, you can almost always use presspull rather than extrude. I was able to extrude and fillet your file in Autodesk Inventor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongor Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 JD, Used Presspull, got this: Modeling Operation Error: Face-face blend geometry ill-defined or undefined. Failed to perform blend. Failure while filleting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Was that using the same drawing as you attached to post #21? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongor Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 I don't see any post #'s...but 3 post back from yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Mather Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Presspull gave me the solid - but the fillet failed like it did for you so I gave up on AutoCAD and took it over to a modern 3D CAD program, Autodesk Inventor. Students can download Inventor for free from http://www.autodesk.com/edcommunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongor Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 I have full-blown AutoCAD 2014 but didn't get Inventor with my initial download, and trying to install it today is not working, some error about being disconnected from Autodesk servers, and maybe a firewall is blocking it...., I am working with a VPN today. I suspect I won't be able to download it as a student because of my current license. I was able to download Vault (which I assume contains the Inventor install) but not install...weird. I did however just download Fusion360 and first attempts are failing there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANT Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 . . . . The white lines aren't joined because those don't need to be filleted. . . . . One of the two lines you would prefer not be filleted will cause issues where it meets the spline. The fillet command will not automatically add connecting faces. If you are trying to keep the juncture of the two white lines sharp then additional modeling to allow continuity is necessary. The attached is an example. body_with FilWork.dwg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongor Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Thank you, but how did you do that? I wasn't able to fillet even if I did join the red and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANT Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Make sure the Line and Spline are tangent. Extrude or PressPull. The Spline geometry will only support a fillet of about Radius = 0.25. More than that and the resulting fillet surface would intersect itself. Try on the attached. bodyAsReg.dwg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongor Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 This is what I'm shooting for But the radius has to be 1/2". I'm doing this as an exercise (and fun!) to have a body milled by a local CNC guy. I don't have any of the tools/equipment required to build a bass and would like learn about cnc/cad interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANT Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 The radius can be 1/2" but will not be the result of a Fillet command. The fillet processing for solids can not account for a surface that would self intersect. Surface modeling techniques may help, but they tend to be more involved than just picking the edge of a solid. Let me see if I can work up a sample. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANT Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 The file sizes are increasing. Let's see if this uploads. BodyViaSurf.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANT Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 The previous upload is the fillet as a surface. It's pretty good, though the pure 1/2" radius breaks down a little bit. Maintaining fidelity would probably make the file even larger. Here is the fillet surface incorporated into a solid. BodyViaSurf2.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongor Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 How'd you do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANT Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 If you look at the BodyViaSurf file you will see the Arcs and Paths I used as construction geometry. Those were lofted to create the surfaces. The surfaces were used (along with some not shown Planar Surfaces) with the Sculpt command to create the Solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongor Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 SeanT, What program did you use to do the BodyViaSurf file? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANT Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 AutoCAD 2013. The later releases of AutoCAD have a pretty comprehensive set of surfacing tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongor Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 I have 2014....what tools/methods did you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANT Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I have 2014....what tools/methods did you use? Predominantly LOFT. If AutoCAD baulks at the selected geometry, alternate the Primary/Guide curves. See this demo: https://chronicle.autodesk.com/Main/Details/63030a60-d78c-41ae-8459-a33edea81ff8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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