hht Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) hello,my laptop has broken down so i have to buy a new computer.so i m thinking about what kind of laptop i should buy.I want to use it for autocad and solidworks at least coming three versions of them,namely coming three years.so can you give some advice please?for example what graphics card would be a better solution? what is importand for choosing a graphics card for autocad and solidworks(also matlab and mathmatica).for example is amd radeon hd 8970 a good solution? and i5 central processing unit, and 4gb ram,windows 7 or 8, 64 bit i must hurry up because of exams.my old laptop was four years old and had ati radeon hd 4650,but it was working with 2013 programs very well. Edited November 27, 2013 by hht Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 If you have the budget I'd recommend looking at the laptops available at Xi Computer. Any one of the three, properly configured, should easily last you three years. As much as I hate to say it I would consider Win8 - 64bit with 8-12GB of RAM and if possible a SSD for your programs with a regular platter drive for data storage. Definitely opt for a dedicated graphics card unless you find something that says the newer GPU's are worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hht Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 If you have the budget I'd recommend looking at the laptops available at Xi Computer. Any one of the three, properly configured, should easily last you three years. As much as I hate to say it I would consider Win8 - 64bit with 8-12GB of RAM and if possible a SSD for your programs with a regular platter drive for data storage. Definitely opt for a dedicated graphics card unless you find something that says the newer GPU's are worth it. hello mr.ReMark.what did you mean with Xİ Computers and any one of three? hard disks(you said SSD) are always enough in every computer?but what what is regular platter drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Xi Computers has three different laptop configurations: PowerGo, PowerGo XT and PowerGo 15/7. You have three options as far as hard drives. There are the solid state hybrid drives, normal (platter) drives and true solid state drives. I think Xi base configurations utilize a hybrid drive. F.Y.I. - Hybrid drives are storage devices that combine NAND flash solid state memory with hard disk drive (HDD) technology. A platter drive uses metal disks and a read/write arm. Haven't you ever taken apart or seen the inside of a hard drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hht Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 Thanks a lot for the information.the first time i tried to see i had broken my desktop pc.but i saw some hard disks they were called sata (2) and what makes xi computers better than non xi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 From PC World: (Serial ATA) The standard hardware interface for connecting hard disks and CD/DVD drives to the computer. SATA2 is just a newer (2002) faster version of the interface. Pervious interfaces were PATA and IDE. And don't forget SCSI too although most people wouldn't recognize that interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hht Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 what makes xi systems better than non xi systems? are they designed specially for cad progs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 That's what they claim and their performance in the Cadalyst magazine roundup/test seems to bear that out. Caveat emptor: Xi computers tend to be pricy. Dell's and HP's have been mentioned as cheaper alternatives by others who claim they work just as well. For specific models you would have to take a look at some of the more recent similar threads. There were at least one or two within the last month or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hht Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 which one of the hard disks is the best for long life and velocity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 You have me confused with a writer for PC World I think. I don't know. If it were me I'd read up on solid state drives because that's what I'd spec to run my programs off of. As long as my secondary data drive (platter type) is spinning at 7200 rpm and not 5400 rpm I'd be happy with that configuration. Kingston, SanDisk, Crucial and OCZ all make good solid state drives (amongst others) but I don't know who makes the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nestly Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Intel also makes SSD hard disks... Samsung too. You'll have limited choices of hard disk manufacturers in any pre-configured system, but I wouldn't get hung up on the SSD brand, just the size (Gigabytes) and the type (SSD vs platter). SSD's are faster, will consume less power, and will "probably" last longer than a conventional hard drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 SSD's are also more rugged too in the event your laptop takes a dive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hht Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) is your advice of ssd something like this " 150 + 8gb ssd" Edited November 28, 2013 by hht Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 That to me suggests a hybrid drive. My preference would be for a dedicated SSD and a dedicated platter drive. Two separate and distinct drives. Now ask me why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hht Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 amd radeon hd 8670 enters the best gpu list from the number the number 117 ,8850 m ranks 68th,8610g ranks 145th.But here is the problem is combination of 8670m + 8610 g as double gpu.is it beter than (117.th plus 145th) better than 68th? combined system has also a10 cpu(equivalent of i7) but 8850 m has i5.which one would be a better choice? and I also heard that nvidia cards have a better performance on cads than that of ati?Is it realistic?I think you have clear ideas.combined system is hp ,other one packard bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I am definitely not a fan of Packard-Bell. Their desktops were terrible and I wouldn't expect any better of their laptops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hht Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 I am definitely not a fan of Packard-Bell. Their desktops were terrible and I wouldn't expect any better of their laptops. have you ever heard that they could easily be broken? what do you think about the gpu s i asked? which one can have more performance with 8gb rams? my old samsung could be broken easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Why do you want another laptop? What are you prepared to spend (max) on this system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hht Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Why do you want another laptop? What are you prepared to spend (max) on this system? another laptop? i have already said that my old laptop has broken.i have to buy a new one because of projects and cad programs and come to conclusion of two laptops. before i said first one hp pavilion with a10(equivalent of i7) and combination of (8670 117 th and 8610 g) and the second is packcard bell with i5 and 8850 m(68th).laptops have 750 gb and 8 gb rams.i have to hadle at last this weekend after i will be very busy,i cant join pc world forums because there was a problem(i think on the site).do you know other good hardware forums? i m waiting for you valuable comments.both of them has a suitable costs.but packbard bell is 100 dollars cheaper. Edited November 28, 2013 by hht Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Personally I wouldn't go within 10 feet of a Packard-Bell computer. But it's your money so buy whatever you want. Why not buy or build a desktop computer? What is your max budget? Other good hardware forums? Have you tried Tom's Hardware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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