Marco1979 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hi to you all, i've been watching a lot of info on your site, now i decided to register myself. So here's my first issue. Been googleing and searching for quite a while now but i cant seem to find any solution. When i use Battman to re-arrange my attributes (in order to be able to auto-number them easily with a numbering-lisp), all values, rotation actions etc. are messed up and the block becomes unusable. I use 2009, I've also tried it in ACAD 2014, same story. Any ideas....cos the next step would be to create the block from scratch. thnx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven-g Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Can you post a block and/or before and after screenshots to show the sort of things that happen, I have never had a problem using battman, but I don't use it lot, is it all blocks or just odd ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco1979 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Drawing3.dwg Hmm, its my first attempt adding an attachement, hope it works. I would like the att "merk" to be the first one. gr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven-g Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Seriously impressed with this one (it must have taken a while to make), I cannot recreate the problem, are you sure it isn't just the values updating after you run the battman command, with all the fields buried in this block they won't update until you do a regen or somehow refresh the block attributes, and the battman command does that. So if you change some of the dynamic properties before running the battman command and don't do a regen, then it will indeed appear as though the values change. Do me a favour and try to recreate the errors again, but before running battman first run the regenall command. If is still shows errors can you let me know which attributes/parameters exactly are affected so I can concentrate on just those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaj Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I would like the att "merk" to be the first one. A bit off the subject, but are these attribute labels Dutch or Afrikaans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven-g Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'd say Dutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco1979 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Drawing3a.dwg Dutch it is! I did take me some while, therefor i would really like it to just move up Dont get me started on regen and stuff. When using formulas and in fields, in fields, in fields....it takes severale :update fields" so actually see what the value is. So i dont think thats the problem...my best guess atm is a bug. Only thing i do, is moving up the merk-att. save/sync/regen etc. and then its messed up, check the attachement. btw, what do you mean by cant recreate the problem....you CAN move it up or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven-g Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 [ATTACH]46353[/ATTACH]Dutch it is! I did take me some while, therefor i would really like it to just move up Dont get me started on regen and stuff. When using formulas and in fields, in fields, in fields....it takes severale :update fields" so actually see what the value is. So i dont think thats the problem...my best guess atm is a bug. Only thing i do, is moving up the merk-att. save/sync/regen etc. and then its messed up, check the attachement. btw, what do you mean by cant recreate the problem....you CAN move it up or what? I'll take a look, yes I can move the attribute up the list but I didn't see any obvious changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven-g Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Just a quick look, I changed the attribute order and added another block and rotated it without an error, You have 2 different blocks in there and the one named (false) is slightly different, in the "beugel" visibility state, the attribute "breedte" isn't included in the main rotation action? Drawing3b.dwg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven-g Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 OK jij bent niet gek I just tried the battorder command and it moved things all over the place, could be a bug! it certainly is strange behavior, I'm going to run a few test on simpler blocks see if I can find anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven-g Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Looks like a bug, I created a very simple block with 2 attributes, and used one of them with a rotation action. If you use Battman or Battorder to change the order that the attributes have then the block swaps which attribute is used for the rotation (the same thing happens with other dynamic actions). So you either need to create the block with the attributes in the correct order before you add any dynamic properties, or go through and change the attributes that are included in the selection set of each action after you change the order. I have included the test block just to show the problem - change the attribute order with battman or battorder - it would be nice if other people could test this with different versions of Autocad to see if it is a recent change that has caused this problem. EDIT: Did a search and this problem only showed up a couple of times in the Autodesk forums, back as far as 2007 Batty.dwg Edited January 17, 2014 by steven-g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco1979 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yhanx for the help sofar!! So the bottom line is, using battman after adding dynamic properties makes the block go bad. Thats....pretty darn...unfortunate I might just go through those selections then....hope i get it fixed. Should we (or someone else) report this bug...or? i would be nice if they fixed it. BTW, with acad 2014 the bug is still there. Thnx again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven-g Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yeah could be a good idea if you report it. I know it's not nice, but if you make each selection set active by double clicking on the actions - you can use the add and remove options to select and deselect the correct attributes - to get your block working again, just make sure you get all of them in all the visibility states, good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco1979 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 quick closure-update: i did go through all selections etc. and the block works fine again. Still i keep encountering massive problems when using battman after i have added dynamic properties. Bottomline is, first arrange your att's, then stretches etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADSK2007 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 is this what you wanted? Regards Adsk Drawing3-a.dwg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco1979 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 CAD 2009 plz =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADSK2007 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Marco see attached. I saved it as ver. 2007 "Merk" is the first item Cheers Drawing3-2007.dwg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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