Rotate/Mview Help

[maxwku]

In my template (paper space) I created two window using mview command. I want to rotate the drawing in one window without effecting, the other window or the actual drawing in model space. Is that possible? I use AutoCAD 2009 LT.

Max K.

[lpseifert]

One way... I don't know if this is available in LT
Mvsetup > Align > Rotate

another... be sure viewport is unlocked
Ucs > Z > [angle to rotate]
Plan > C

[maxwku]

Yeah it would be easy if I had the Mvsetup command, but unfortunately I don’t L.

I have been messing with rotating the ucs’s, but it seems to want to effect the model as well. I lock the viewport (mview: lock: on) and then change the ucs via the ucs command. But then when I type plan command, it says, “command unavailable in view-locked viewport.) But when I unlock it and then do the plan: c command it also changes model. How can I change the ucs only in the viewport, but not in model.

[rkent]

You aren't changing the model when you do this. If you have two viewports on screen then notice that one rotates and the other does not. If you go out to MS you will see that the model is just as you left it.

[maxwku]

Step by step of what I’m doing.
In layout (paper space) I select the boundaries of the mview window. Then type in mview in command line, lock, on. Then I type usc in command line, then z, then 45. Then I type plan and it says, “Command only valid in model space.” I agree with rkent, my ucs in paper space is different from model space, but the drawing in the window adheres to model space ucs. So it really doesn’t solve my problem.

[rkent]

Step by step of what I’m doing.
In layout (paper space) I select the boundaries of the mview window. Then type in mview in command line, lock, on. Then I type usc in command line, then z, then 45. Then I type plan and it says, “Command only valid in model space.” I agree with rkent, my ucs in paper space is different from model space, but the drawing in the window adheres to model space ucs. So it really doesn’t solve my problem.

You do not want to lock the viewport, and you must be in the viewport for this to work. So double click inside the viewport, type PS, pick the toggle at the bottom of the screen Paper/Model, etc. That viewport is now active, (if not pick inside the viewport you want to change) now do the UCS, .... , Set your viewport scale, Pan to show what you want showing, NOW lock the viewport.

[maxwku]

yes you are right it does flip the drawing in paper space and leaves it alone in model. But the problem I'm having is that the ucs in model space is now different. Though the model space drawing was not affected the ucs was.

[lpseifert]

Ucs > W ...

[maxwku]

Alright that works, thanks. Now this brings up a second question. Is there a way to do this and not have to guess at the angles? Most of the jobs I get are miles of road work, and it is mostly north oriented. So the roads will be at 15 to 35 degree angles. I can fit more of the road when I publish if I can get the roads horizontal. The ucs command requires you to put in an angel. Is there another way around that?

[lpseifert]

UCS > OBject

[maxwku]

Thank you all very much :D ! This is why I love AutoCAD, I learn something new with it everyday. And if not for you guys, I would be beating my head against the wall , and doing things the long hard way.


Max

[rkent]

FYI, there is another option not shown at the command line after starting UCS, and that is 3Point. So after UCS, type 3, and pick two points for the X axis, then pick in the general direction you want the Y axis.

You can see this option at the command line by typing, UCS, N (for new), then you will be shown the 3point along with some of the same ones as before.

[maxwku]

Cool, I will definitely be using these commands a lot more, now that I know how to manipulate them. I have been making duplicates of all my jobs just so I can rotate one and leave the other one alone. My Cad files would get huge, and it was becoming a hassle. Any changes that needed to be done had to be made twice. I will play with all the commands more and get familiar with them.

Thanks

[leos98]

I gues this will be an addon questions to what was being discuss above, I need to know. If after rotating one viewport with MVSETUP, can it be possible to create your leaders and text at angle zero thru that viewport? I'll try to re-write it better. Create in PS two viewports, Vport1 and Vport2. Vport2 is rotated using MVSETUP, ALIGN, ROTATE. I want to be able to make Layer1 and Layer2, freeze Layer1 in Vport2 and Layer2 in Vport1. After that work thru each of the vports and the work i.e. (text, dims) is shown at zero angle. Can this be done?

[NAILER20]

hih I have a drawing with a view port I have attempted to rotate using mvsetup
however when I rotate it automatically rotates back
viewlock-off
anythoughts!!