FILLET And CHAMFER Driving Brave Man Nuts!

[Randolph]

As some will remember, I already posted about problems with fillet and chamfer, which I'm having on a single computer - mine. As I'm working on an important project, I don't want to risk fuzzing around with the installation - never change a running system, especially if you depend on it. Now, I have to live with encounters of the third kind.

1.) My version is English.
2.) My ACAD.PGP says:



V, *CHAMFER
C, *FILLET


3.) NO CHAMFER and NO FILLET in my ACAD.LSP (I totally removed the words from the lisp).

4.) Start AutoCAD.



5.) Enter V -> UNKNOWN COMMAND "FASE"
6.) Enter C -> UNKNOWN COMMAND "ABRUNDEN"

These are the GERMAN commands for chamfer and fillet! :?

It also seems that AutoCAD does not access the pgp, as I tried to create some shortcuts like "KJH, *LINE" which did not work, neither after reinit nor after restart.

No I searched my installation for other PGPs and LSPs- without success. And yes, I also looked for hidden files.

NOW comes the really weird part:

7.) I opened my ACAD.LSP and entered:



(DEFUN C:V () (COMMAND "_CHAMFER"))
(DEFUN C:C () (COMMAND "_FILLET"))


8.) Appload



9.) Enter C -> UNKNOWN COMMAND "FILLET"
10.) Enter V -> UNKNOWN COMMAND "CHAMFER"


ISN'T IT CRAZY!? WHAT THE HELL!

Is there some other whatsoever CUI stuff? How can it be that an english installation installed on a computer which has never seen a german version remeber german commands while forgetting the most common english commands?

AND:

11.) If I use the buttons (which I hate) both commands work properly.

GHOST - MESSAGES FROM CUI?

[Freerefill]

Looks like something went odd in your language settings. I have no idea how that has happened, but try this for fun:



(defun c:v() (command (getcname "_chamfer")))

[Randolph]

Hi Freerefill,

I tried it, with the same result: unknown command chamfer. I also replaced "v" by "vbc" (some other unused shortcut name) to be sure that autocad accessed this command. For vbc I also got the same result.

Sorry your getcname trick didn't work.

[Randolph]

C'mon boyz, donledme down!

[SEANT]

What if you did this (Notice the preceding “period”)?

(DEFUN C:V () (COMMAND "._CHAMFER"))
(DEFUN C:C () (COMMAND "._FILLET"))

[Randolph]

Seant, you're cooler than Officer McClane. I noticed and it worked. What the hell! I could have spent some time by myself to put a "." or an "*" or a "%" or a "&" or maybe a "€" before or behind the "_" or the ":" ... :) Seant, you made my day. Send me your account details, and I'll transfer a million to you. A million tanzanean shillings, I mean, not a million €.

No, honest: how come, and what was or is the problem?

PS: What's the saucer on your pic? Your home? Looks interesting.

[Randolph]

And how come all other commands work properly without?

[SEANT]

I’m glad you’re back online. The preceding period tells AutoCAD to use the native command regardless of how else the standard name has been redefined.

The “saucer” is actually a hydrofoil sailboat design. See here for larger images:
http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11552

[Randolph]

Great. I'm happy.

Concerning the underwater foils: I once made rectangular hydrofoil design with slightly flexible underater wings divided across the whole length and width into 2 chambers: an upper chamber and a lower chamber both filled with water. by pressing water from one chamber into the other you could adjust the profile of the wings from positive to negative without rudders. I guess a negative profile windwards would be necessary, because else without ballast, a hydrofoil sailboat design might capsize.

Strange thing that the airsail profile seems to be the wrong way round - rounded astern. Or do you sail with the broad ass and the rudders a-bow?

Other thing might also be that you don't see much ahead when steering (except see ^ above).

Nice modelling and texturing!

Yor friendly engineer

[SEANT]

Cool.

It does sound like that particular installation of AutoCAD has some autorun redefinition scheme. Was that workstation previously used by a German speaking CAD operator?



With regard to the sailboat: A more detailed explanation can be found here (a link to a visual aid can be found on post # 13)


http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1963

[Randolph]

I am a German speaking CAD operator.

I'm not sure whether there was a previous German install on that computer, but I rather think there was none. On the other hand, I can't explain the German commands otherwise.