moving lines with set values

A problem lately,I draw a line then I group it,use move tool,then use move from a set intersection and type @12,12 enter for example and the line ends up in the abyss?I have to pan way out to find the line off my dwg and miles from my work in outer space any help will be appreciated,thanks!

Are you asking for help on moving the line, or getting it back from the 'abyss'?

try without the @ 12,12 after picking base point

But the problem maybe that autocad is calculating the distance forn the pick point to the point 12,12 and moving it that far

try move "select objects" 0,0 12,12 this definately works

Also if your doing this all the time there are a couple of ways to store the 0,0 12,12 as a single response using toolbars or side menus comes to mind or a lisp

Are you asking for help on moving the line, or getting it back from the 'abyss'?

Thankyou for responding.I'm asking how to move a line from a set basepoint established when I group the line,select move,select hold,then move the line at an intersection of two other lines,or from a piece of ductwork already drawn.So after I move the line with my mouse to the selected basepoint I click,then for example type in @6,12 enter.This makes the line dissapear,only to find it way off the drawing,in outer space,why does this happen?I noticed this happening after i used mvsetup to rotate the viewport because of the shape of the building floor plan.I was able to do this sucessfully all the time before I rotated the viewport on a completelly different project.I'm stumped! Thanks Al

try without the @ 12,12 after picking base point

 

But the problem maybe that autocad is calculating the distance forn the pick point to the point 12,12 and moving it that far

 

try move "select objects" 0,0 12,12 this definately works

 

Also if your doing this all the time there are a couple of ways to store the 0,0 12,12 as a single response using toolbars or side menus comes to mind or a lisp

Thanks Al...my name is Al as well.Firstly I move lines,ductwork,and many other objects constantlly,i'm a sheetmetal draftsman in the HVAC industry.That being said I noticed this happening shortly after I used mvsetup to rotate my viewport on a completelly different project.There are times when we need to rotate the viewport depending on the shape of the building and floor plan.So once again I group the line or object,then select the move tool,grab the object then,select the hold tool,then move my object at either a ceiling grid intersection,or the side of a piece of duct etc then click my mouse which now establishes that basepoint and imput @6,12 enter for example and the object goes out of view and until I zoom way out and I find it in outer space.I'm lost and its frustrating since we are constantly drawing and moving various objects,equiptment,ceiling diffusers,lines,steel,lights,etc.I draw in WORLD and view is top always. Any help will be greatly appreciated,could it be in my settings?I've been told that sometimes when you rotate the viewport it changes XYZ,and switching from model to paper also can change this but I do not know enough about this Al.Thanks again from another Al.

The " @ " key is PART of what's throwing you off..

If you use the @ key, it's expecting you to follow-up with a distance and angle rather than another point.

For example: @2

Or, @2 by itself would draw a two-units long line in whatever direction your mouse is currently away from the startpoint of the line.

I don't know what your 6 and 12 numbers are supposed to represent... over 6, up 12? They're being read by AutoCAD as coordinates.

The start point on a line is not always 0,0.. the 0,0 position is the origin point of your entire drawing. It CAN be that same point if you've moved everything around until it IS that point, but I suspect that's not the case here.

The x,y coordinates 6 and 12 represent a point that's 6 x-units and 12 y-units away from the 0,0 position of the entire drawing. (likely that spot out in space that everything keeps getting thrown to).

I beleive you can use object tracking to do what you're trying to do, but I'm not familiar with the specifics behind it's use.

Another option would be to OFFSET lines in the two directions (6 the X direction, and 12 the Y direction).. then you'd be able to draw from the INTersection, to the "extended INTersection" by using the INT osnap and selecting both of the guidelines you created. Then erase the two guidelines.

Big AL's advice would work too.. it depends on what's easiest for you.

at 12, 12.. you could also draw that line with this: @16.9706

assuming you do that same XY all the time. (yes, I did the 12, 12 in autoCAD.. no mental hypotenuse work here.. my brain just says "Illegal operation, I was told there'd be no math" )

A problem lately,I draw a line then I group it,use move tool,then use move from a set intersection and type @12,12 enter for example and the line ends up in the abyss?I have to pan way out to find the line off my dwg and miles from my work in outer space any help will be appreciated,thanks!

To use @ turn DYN off.

I re-read your post so I think you want to, Move, Pick objects, pick displacement point, From (type this hit enter), snap to a point, @12,12 (again with DYN off).

The " @ " key is PART of what's throwing you off..

 

If you use the @ key, it's expecting you to follow-up with a distance and angle rather than another point.

 

For example: @2

Or, @2 by itself would draw a two-units long line in whatever direction your mouse is currently away from the startpoint of the line.

 

I don't know what your 6 and 12 numbers are supposed to represent... over 6, up 12? They're being read by AutoCAD as coordinates.

 

The start point on a line is not always 0,0.. the 0,0 position is the origin point of your entire drawing. It CAN be that same point if you've moved everything around until it IS that point, but I suspect that's not the case here.

 

The x,y coordinates 6 and 12 represent a point that's 6 x-units and 12 y-units away from the 0,0 position of the entire drawing. (likely that spot out in space that everything keeps getting thrown to).

 

I beleive you can use object tracking to do what you're trying to do, but I'm not familiar with the specifics behind it's use.

 

Another option would be to offset the two directions (6 the X direction, and 12 the Y direction).. then you'd be able to draw from the INTersection, to the "extended INTersection" by using the INT osnap and selecting both of the guidelines you created. Then erase the two guidelines.

 

Big AL's advice would work too.. it depends on what's easiest for you.

 

at 6, 12.. you could also draw that line with this: @13.4164

assuming you do that same XY all the time.

Hi Mike and thanks.I noticed that this started to happen shortly after I used mvsetup to rotate my viewport.I am a sheetmetal draftsman working in autocad and quickpen cad which works in the autocad environment.We move objects by feet and or inches that is the example I gave for @12,12.The viewport is rotated sometimes depending on the size,shape of the building and or floor plan.So we constantlly move objects lines,steel,diffusers,equiptment,ductwork etc.I work in autocad 2009 presently.If you read my response to Big Al it gives you a little better picture of what I'm doing and why I am having trouble doing this simple task,thank you Mike,I'm new to the autocad world. My name is Al as well!

To use @ turn DYN off.

 

I re-read your post so I think you want to, Move, Pick objects, pick displacement point, From (type this hit enter), snap to a point, @12,12 (again with DYN off).

Hi and these examples I have given in this example is in inches. But I move many objects within an architectural drawing all different locations.so nothingconstant location.I usually never have DYN activated. Once again this all started when Iused mvsetup to rotate my viewport on a completelly different project.I explained it best on Big Als last response as to what I actually do and its frustrating to have this simple task waste so much of my time or i should say my bosses time.any help is so appreciated thanks from another Al