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I am in search of a lisp which puts a point with figure in a drawing when you snap a point .

It also needs to export the coordinates with the point number to a text file are a trimble m5 rec file.

It also needs to number automatic up, i need it for land surveying.

Can someone help me? meester.bert@live.nl

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It's incredible you should ask that, I came upon a similar problem just a few days ago.

 

Not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but give it a shot:

 

(defun c:pclick( / filNam start point file)
 (setq filNam "C:\\ptnumlist.txt")
 (if (not (findfile filNam)) (close (open filNam "A")))
 (setq start (getreal "\nEnter starting number: "))
 (while (setq point (getpoint "\nClick on target point: "))
   (setq file (open filnam "A"))
   (write-line (strcat (rtos start 2 0) " " (rtos (car point) 2 5) "," (rtos (cadr point) 2 5)) file)
   (setq start (1+ start))
   (close file)
   )
 )

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It's incredible you should ask that, I came upon a similar problem just a few days ago.

 

Not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but give it a shot:

 

(defun c:pclick( / filNam start point file)
 (setq filNam "C:\\ptnumlist.txt")
 (if (not (findfile filNam)) (close (open filNam "A")))
 (setq start (getreal "\nEnter starting number: "))
 (while (setq point (getpoint "\nClick on target point: "))
   (setq file (open filnam "A"))
   (write-line (strcat (rtos start 2 0) " " (rtos (car point) 2 5) "," (rtos (cadr point) 2 5)) file)
   (setq start (1+ start))
   (close file)
   )
 )

 

It dindt do any thing in autocad map :cry:

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I'm sorry, when you say snap - do you just mean that you are clicking the points where you need them, and you want these numbered and recorded?

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I'm sorry, when you say snap - do you just mean that you are clicking the points where you need them, and you want these numbered and recorded?

 

I click on the opbject or symbol, yes the numbers need to come in a record with the pointnumber, northing and easting and the height.(pointnumber,x,y,z)

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Well done Lee as usual quickest lisper in the west (have code for doing this) a couple of points for Bert_D most survey instruments will read a XYZ txt file so you dont need a special format file for a Trimle the file just needs Ptnum, X, Y, Z one per line. Regarding Z how were you proposing to assign the Z values to points or lines etc else the points will always be 0.0.

 

We use CIV3d plus others and they have the ability to write 3d lines and points of designs created. It would be very labour intensive if you have to manually add the Z value.

 

If you are using CIV3d then you can do what you want now by using point groups.

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Surely this version of my LISP does just that:

 

A very nice lisp, Lee Mac. I like this version better than the previous, but could I be bold and point out a couple of areas that could be polished.

 

The point number, although it is meant to be an integer, somehow turns itself into a decimal number.

 

When in a UCS, the latest version writes the correct UCS coordinate to file, but places the point number text at WCS coordinates. The previous version wrote WCS coordinates to file, but placed the point numbers at UCS coordinates.

 

Otherwise I am keeping this one very handy :D

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A very nice lisp, Lee Mac. I like this version better than the previous, but could I be bold and point out a couple of areas that could be polished.

 

Thanks :) , I'm always open to suggestions :D

 

The point number, although it is meant to be an integer, somehow turns itself into a decimal number.

 

Sorry, I didn't include the the decimal and 0 dp arguments in the rtos function - my mistake.

 

I wanted to keep num as a real, and display it with no dp, due to the 32767 integer limit.

 

When in a UCS, the latest version writes the correct UCS coordinate to file, but places the point number text at WCS coordinates. The previous version wrote WCS coordinates to file, but placed the point numbers at UCS coordinates.

 

I must admit, I hate the UCS and haven't included anything to cope with this in this version, but I shall incorporate your ideas :)

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Give this a shot, it should incorporate the UCS... but I am not too good with UCS conversion, so shout if it doesn't work :P

 

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Fantastic Lee Mac :D

 

The ucs works fine. There were two more instances of (rtos num) in the screen prompt and the data file, but I have managed on my own :shock: to cope with those. Also my TEXTSIZE was not being picked up, and I prefer the justification to be LEFT, but again I have coped with those.

 

A big THANK YOU. It is a lisp that I shall be using a great deal. :D

 

I hope this is not taking up too much time during your exams - perhaps your form of relaxation?

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Fantastic Lee Mac :D

 

The ucs works fine. There were two more instances of (rtos num) in the screen prompt and the data file, but I have managed on my own :shock: to cope with those. Also my TEXTSIZE was not being picked up, and I prefer the justification to be LEFT, but again I have coped with those.

 

Ahh yes, maybe I shouldn't've altered it quite so hurriedly.... :P

 

 

A big THANK YOU. It is a lisp that I shall be using a great deal. :D

 

I hope this is not taking up too much time during your exams - perhaps your form of relaxation?

 

No problem Eldon, I love it when you know that a LISP that you wrote is being put to good use - gives you some sense of pride :D

 

As for the exams, I have them in 9 days, and have done some revision, but probably not as much as I should - I just enjoy writing the programs too much...

 

Lee

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