tzframpton Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I have an issue that my boss came to me about. He created a polyline tracing over some architectural rooms to create a zone for an HVAC load calculation. Nothing fancy just a simple PLINE, and took the area. Later, he decided he wanted to split it into two zones. He took the area's of each zone, then added them together to double check his work and it came out a different number than the original single zone. I have attached the file for clarity, but here's the breakdown: Single zone is 5,501 sq ft. Separated zones are 4,062 sq ft. & 1,177 sq ft. Add 4,062 + 1,177 = 5,239 sq ft???? Nothing literally changed between these two zones, there is simply a line that divides them into two separate zones, that is it. At first guess, we thought maybe AutoCAD formulates the area calculation from the perimeter and uses some type of conversion method to produce this number. I tested a PLINE where I actually overlapped a few lines, but I found that AutoCAD is definitely smarter than that, it still took the literal area of it even though the length of the PLINE was inaccurate due to the overlapping lines. My boss (who's also the vice president of engineering) is stumped by this. He just cannot understand how AutoCAD is producing this number, and where the loss is. I'm hoping someone out there might have a clue as to what is happening here. Thanks in advance for anyone who might be able to help!! Zone Area Problem.dwg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 And everyone is using the same software (MEP 2010) right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 The Area that shows up in Properties on the smaller (1177 sq ft) and the area that I get from AREA-command are not the same...the AREA-command gives the correct amount (ie added with the bigger area equals the non-divided area) - but why that is, I have no idea. Update, if I draw a new PLine over the smaller area, THAT comes up with the right Area in Properties I wonder how the lines where divided, Break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmapper Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 The smaller area is not drawn right. If you do a pedit, and close the polyline, you'll see that it is not drawn correctly. Create a new boundary (BO command) and do an area on the newly created boundary, and you'll see that it produces the correct area. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Oops. Sounds like the boss needs some training on the use of Osnaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 If I step through the Vertixes on the PLine (Pedit > Edit Vertix > Next ..) , after it comes to the end, it goes back and overlaps itself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzframpton Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Ah!! So that's it.... I told my boss that I have seen in the past arguments relating to AutoCAD's accuracy and that it cannot be beaten. I even thought about using the BOUNDARY command to test, sometimes I guess I jump the gun in my questions before I seek the answer myself. Once again, thanks a lot guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f700es Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 So, it was operator error or boss error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzframpton Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Boss Error for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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