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    Just in case you didn't read it, this from Wikipedia:

    BIM Software
    Due to the complexity of gathering all the relevant information when working with BIM on a building project some companies have developed software designed specifically to work in a BIM framework. These packages (e.g.: Autodesk Revit, ARCHIBUS EIM with BIM 4.0, ArchiCAD) differ from architectural drafting tools such as AutoCAD and VectorWorks by allowing the addition of further information (time, cost, manufacturers' details, sustainability and maintenance information, etc.) to the building model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nestly View Post
    The Revit crowd is getting bigger and louder.
    Maybe so, but the AutoCAD crowd is getting smaller and crying louder.

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    There's an abundance of "BIM" classes in the Autodesk University archives for AutoCAD vertical products, so clearly someone is redefining "BIM"
    I'll agree that the term "BIM" has been severely exploited. Severely. Let's set aside this acronym for a moment... since there's so many differences in definitions.

    AutoCAD vertical products, at it's core, is a non-collaborative drawing application. Revit, at it's core, is a collaborative database. Neither of these two applications are directly comparable in any way. If this is true, and agreeable, then why would any term (BIM or otherwise) be used to compare them? BIM (or, "insert catchy marketing term here") equals Revit, therefore it does not equal AutoCAD and/or the subsequent vertical products.... and vice versa.
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    So, you started off by saying to drop the term and follow it up by using it twice. The term has a definition and agreed it is misused, but what is key is the words around it. AutoCAD can be a part if the BIM process but it is not capable of being the process.

    When it comes to a "catchy marketing term", it starts to become meaningless because of the words around it. There is a big difference between, BIM compatible and BIM capable. Many programs can be a part of the process but few can run the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobDraw View Post
    AutoCAD can be a part of the BIM process but it is not capable of being the process.
    That's a really good way to put it actually. Revit "is" the process, and AutoCAD can do nothing more but be part of the process. But that still may be giving AutoCAD too much credit and is misleading, which is why most people do not credit AutoCAD at all.
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