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I deleted the drawing for you.

I have sent you a PM.

What I mean is that any rectangle, whatever its size, can be fitted into an A4 Layout without any problem, even if it does not keep the proportions of the standard formats. Simply adjust the A4 Layout Viewport to the proportions of the rectangle taken as a reference in the model space. A zoom in the model space of this viewport will achieve the final effect. But if you have to consider the size of the rectangle selected to use one Layout or another, everything is a little more complicated. I hope I have explained myself better now.

An important issue is the paper size of the target layout. Because, regardless of the size of the rectangle in model space, it can be adapted to the layout in paper space (with the relevant scaling considerations, of course). Forcing the code to select one paper size or another based on the size of the rectangle in model space will make the job a bit more complicated.

Where did you find this LISP?

As Bigal says, unless you already have code for this, writing a tool like that is well worth 1 coffee. Or 2. I'll try to write something when I have enough time. Unless someone already has something to do this and is generous enough to share it

I did give you an answer if you want rectangs start with the Viewport rectang the width and height in your layout title block. Then you draw the rectang to suit using the scale factor. Look at this front end. The match rotation part will cost you a coffee. (cond ((and (= sz "A0")(= orien "Landscape")) (setq ht 780.0 wid 1160.0 xpt 878.0 xwid 62.0 yht 32.0)) ((and (= sz "A1")(= orien "Landscape")) (setq Ht 541.0 wid 831.0 xpt 542.0 xwid 62.0 yht 32.0)) ((and (= sz "A1")(= orien "Portrait")) (setq Ht 774.0 wid 571.0 xpt 229.0 xwid 62.0 yht 32.0)) ((and (= sz "A2")(= orien "Landscape")) (setq ht 367.0 wid 584.0 xpt 295.5 xwid 62.0 yht 32.0)) ((and (= sz "A2")(= orien "Portrait")) (setq ht 554.0 wid 410.0 xpt 209.5 xwid 41.0 yht 23.0)) ((and (= sz "A3")(= orien "Landscape")) (setq ht 247.0 wid 400.0 xpt 200.0 xwid 41.0 yht 23.0)) ((and (= sz "A3")(= orien "Portrait")) ( close-drawrecs)) ((= sz "A4") (setq ht 180.0 wid 287.0)) ) Draw rectangs.mp4

Ztrain, I need help in general. I'm in the same PennFoster class you are. I've been trying to get the school to give me hands on help with this project but apparently they don't offer any of that. I know this is probably a long shot but is there a way I can email you or we can somehow get ahold of each other. I've only made it the lots part of the project and can't seem to figure it out. I've been working on this for a month, well I've been stuck for a month.

If I understand correctly, you want the 'LayOut' viewport to adapt proportionally to the selected rectangular polyline to display, by zooming, its content?

You do it in reverse to what you asked. you enter scale 1st. Then draw a rectang that matches the viewport in the layout scaled up or down to match scale. The other way is just pick a pt and use ZOOM C PT scale when in mspace use a dummy value for scale, then use zoom scXP the sc is simple for metres (setq sc (/ 1000 requiredscale) ) similar for mm a factor of 1000. The rotated rectangs answer will cost you a cup of coffee, as need to set up the rectang size to match say choices in paper size.

Thank you not only for your analysis of Penn-Foster and the AutoCAD coursework but also for your kind words. Good luck in your future endeavors.

I just finished the Penn Foster AutoCad course. Got a 96% overall score. Much thanks to ReMark and everyone else on this forum. It was pretty frustrating and would have been MUCH worse without the info I got here. I'm not sure that I would recommend Penn Foster to others. If I did, I would send the person straight here along with the recommendation. If you muscle through it you'll have a decent entry-level understanding of the program I guess. It's WAY more of a time and energy commitment than I expected, and a good chunk of that is not directly related to using the program. There are extensive "old-school" manual drafting chapters you start out with (you'll need to freshen up on geometry formulas) and it seems to take forever to even get access to downloading the program. After completing all that and accessing AutoCad 2017 you go through a long book with lessons, then jump into the 5 projects you finish with. First 3 projects are pretty brutal, then a couple much easier ones. The projects wouldn't be that bad, but the directions are very difficult to understand. It's all text based direction with not much visual reference at all. That's where 80% of your time goes, figuring out the instructions, not actually using the program. Anyways, if you NEED some type of cert for AutoCad and want to work on it on your own time with no in-person classes, Penn Foster works. Just be ready to be persistent though a pretty heavy dose of frustration.

DME55: No reply? I too remember AutoDesk Learning Assistant I just don't recall when it was stopped being released. Anyway, here are some options for learning AutoCAD while avoiding Penn-Foster. 1) The Mycadsite.com. Still the best free AutoCAD learning website in my opinion. The website's author has been producing tutorials since 1999. 2) The CAD Institute. If you are intent on doing an online certificate course then try this one. I would recommend signing up for these three courses to begin with: Fundamentals of AutoCAD, AutoCAD Tips & Tricks, and AutoCAD in 3D. There are three very specific courses available that cover AutoCAD for the architectural, electrical and mechanical disciplines. 3) Lynda CAD Training. They offer AutoCAD training and tutorials via videos created by AutoCAD professionals. 4) For self learners I'd recommend the Ascent Center for Technical Knowledge. They produce the manuals and DVDs used by Authorized AutoCAD Resellers to teach AutoCAD. One of the four above should work for you or anyone else seeking to learn AutoCAD.